The where were you when we were shit banner is very decent, keep that, the rest of it is absolute trash though and should be burned. Comes across as nothing but whinging fans playing the victim rather than pointing out UEFA’s hypocrisy and corruption.
We will get no support from anybody else from seeing that. The other anti-uefa banners we’ve seen across Europe don’t victimise themselves, they make it purely about UEFA and leave their own club out of it which allows every football fan regardless of rivalries to relate and support. whether others believe we’ve been wronged or not, we will get no support because football is tribal and nobody gives a shit about any other club other than their own. Wrong message entirely.
The problem is, the 1894 group have their own little niche group of likeminded decision makers, they can come up with an idea and within that little group they’ll all think its great because they’re friends and have similar thoughts. keeping it private until it’s unveiling means there’s nobody that isn’t their mate to give them an outside opinion. It’s not a criticism of them directly as I know some of them take criticism personally, it’s just how it is.Big commendable swing but a huge miss on this one unfortunately.
Disagree with a lot of this. As someone who’s been involved in this display I just want to make a few points:
- we are the victims, aren’t we? UEFA have gone above and beyond to ban us.
- we don’t want support from the likes of United (Gill), Liverpool (Parry) etc. They are the elite who we’re attacking. Clubs like Newcastle, Everton, West Ham, who are similar to us in not being ‘European elite’ will support this IMO.
- football is tribal at the best of times. We shouldn’t have to count on support from other fans regardless.
- you’re correct about small group of decision makers. But 1894 is an open group (free memberships available now). We’re always trying to get people involved, but few step up and become ‘decision makers’.
- we asked our entire list of members for their ideas, we used a few of them (hence different banners).
- one of the main parts of a display is the shock value and suspense - if everyone knows the display before it happens it takes away from it.
- The main display might not be your cup of tea, but in our defence, if that’s unfurled whilst millions are watching City v Madrid (with UEFA Representatives sat in view), it goes up another level. Out of anyone’s control though with lockdown so had to get it out before court hearing.
I know you’re post isn’t trying to be offensive or rude or anything, and I hope my reply doesn’t come across as touchy. I’m just trying to add a bit of context from the other side.