19 | Ilkay Gundogan - 2024/25

Absolutely fucking rubbish. A shadow of his former self. It's reached the stage where he doesn't lose the ball and "he's back". His decision making is worse which is the really worrying thing.
I hear you but he's also needing to do more as a 6 at the moment with Rodri out. He's always looked washed without a player like Rodri or Dinho next to him, even back in 2018/2019.
 
Score would have remained 1-0 if he stayed on, subs negatively impacted the game today. Whereas Brighton's subs had a positive effect.
 
Score would have remained 1-0 if he stayed on, subs negatively impacted the game today. Whereas Brighton's subs had a positive effect.
I doubt it

Brighton would still score even if Gundo remained on the pitch

Big perhaps they would not bag 2
 
Score would have remained 1-0 if he stayed on, subs negatively impacted the game today. Whereas Brighton's subs had a positive effect.
To be honest we were being ripped a new one at that point and Brighton should have already equalised. However, I’m not convinced he was the right one to be subbed. For me, Savinho and Nunes would have been off and I’d have tightened it up with more defensive minded players however inexperienced they are. We needed to defend the lead. We seem incapable of changing tactics though.
 
Score would have remained 1-0 if he stayed on, subs negatively impacted the game today. Whereas Brighton's subs had a positive effect.
They were well on top before he went off. Plus he’d have likely tired as the game went on
 
I hear you but he's also needing to do more as a 6 at the moment with Rodri out. He's always looked washed without a player like Rodri or Dinho next to him, even back in 2018/2019.
This, he wasn't really able to play week in week out going back a good few years, the game where he scored two to win the title against villa he came on as sub
 
I genuinely worry he is going to destroy what should he a wonderful legacy.

But he look like an old player who should be playing in Saudi or the MLS and topping up his pension.

The game is passing him by, he looked decent for the first 20 mins but then the legs could not go on and he was a passenger, so sad to see.
 
I hear you but he's also needing to do more as a 6 at the moment with Rodri out. He's always looked washed without a player like Rodri or Dinho next to him, even back in 2018/2019.
Well that’s not true is it because in 2018-19 Fernandinho missed a lot of games from February onwards and Gündoğan played in defensive midfield on his own and was rated as the best player in Europe from February to May.
 
I thought he was really good last night in the 1st half. Best since he returned.

I certainly wouldn't have taken him off when we did. Felt we lost his calmness and brought on players who aren't as composed passers of the ball. Brighton were on top but we were still having spells. After that, it became an onslaught and we struggled to get out of our own half
 

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