GStar said:Sack it off all together?
jay_mcfc said:GStar said:Sack it off all together?
No chance. The trainers, owners and jockeys etc know what they risk in the race. It's awful that horses have fatal falls but the race is fantastic and Aintree have made the course safer recently despite the deaths yesterday.
Your aguments are flawed, People die in Motor sports every year and that isn't shut down. When a horse falls 99/100 it gets back up and carries on jumping the fences, If it didnt want to jump them it wouldnt.GStar said:jay_mcfc said:No chance. The trainers, owners and jockeys etc know what they risk in the race. It's awful that horses have fatal falls but the race is fantastic and Aintree have made the course safer recently despite the deaths yesterday.
In honesty i wasn't being completely serious. I just don't understand the horse racing industry; i get the impression it's a corrupt inner circle operating off 'daft' punter's money. I don't get the point of it... i'm not even getting into the animal side of things, but i've be unsure whether these horses really do want to have little irish men shoved on their backs and forced to jump over hedges ;)
Speaking of which, the Grand National always has a high percentage of fallers, and something like 33 fatalities in 11 years, if that were people the thing would be shut down without a bat of an eyelid... the fact its people in control of the animals their killing... sorry, i'm going off on one a bit.
GStar said:jay_mcfc said:No chance. The trainers, owners and jockeys etc know what they risk in the race. It's awful that horses have fatal falls but the race is fantastic and Aintree have made the course safer recently despite the deaths yesterday.
In honesty i wasn't being completely serious. I just don't understand the horse racing industry; i get the impression it's a corrupt inner circle operating off 'daft' punter's money. I don't get the point of it... i'm not even getting into the animal side of things, but i've be unsure whether these horses really do want to have little irish men shoved on their backs and forced to jump over hedges ;)
Speaking of which, the Grand National always has a high percentage of fallers, and something like 33 fatalities in 11 years, if that were people the thing would be shut down without a bat of an eyelid... the fact its people in control of the animals their killing... sorry, i'm going off on one a bit.
bluesmith said:Your aguments are flawed, People die in Motor sports every year and that isn't shut down. When a horse falls 99/100 it gets back up and carries on jumping the fences, If it didnt want to jump them it wouldnt.
GStar said:bluesmith said:Your aguments are flawed, People die in Motor sports every year and that isn't shut down. When a horse falls 99/100 it gets back up and carries on jumping the fences, If it didnt want to jump them it wouldnt.
My argument could well be flawed, but i think thats yours probably i too.
The difference being, a motor sports driver chooses to put themselves in that situation, they understand the risks. I'm not sure horses are consulted and given the same option, i also don't think it's quite as simple as 'if they didn't want to jump, they wouldn't' - possibly due to fear (why else would a jockey carry a whip other than to frighten the horse into running faster?) plus i don't want to say brainwashing, but rearing a horse and forcing it to train for racing it's entire life... its not like the horse can chose not to one day and become a lawyer.