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Probably the professional gamblers and/or people understanding what is still to be counted lumping on.
Not saying you’re wrong but not necessarily. Could simply be the bookies trying to put the jitters in those who still have Trump money in the market to hedge out. The twists and turns of the betting markets are uninformative at best at this stage, and easily manipulated by those with access to the best information.
 
I'm going to call Nevada for Trump 2 very rural counties not even counting till morning (local time) and Biden only just leading.
Georgia is getting closer though.
 
All those decades of inciting coups around the globe, only natural it would hit at home eventually

Trump is a clown as are his supporters but clear they represent a larger segment of US society than Americans care to admit

Bigger issue I see is that Democrats are toxic themselves from undermining their own Bernie in two elections to the sham confirmation hearings for Trump's SC nominees in an election that will inevitably end up being heard by them

Sometimes you can't get what you need, just what you deserve
 
I'm watching CNN and you've just lied.

CNN keep saying that the votes have to be counted and explaining the late counts will likely favour Biden. Trump is saying that he can't lose and that any movement towards Biden is fraud.

Don't fucking lie, there's enough of that coming from the POTUS.
Excuse me? I’m sat here watching it and quoting their figures. I haven’t lied you cheeky little prick.
 
Apparently surge in Latino, black and elderly support for Trump looks like it has confounded the predictions in favour of Biden. The media only seem to have convinced middle class educated white people that Trump is racist.
Ironically the systemic racism and classism the middle class, educated white people in the media like to point out as problematic and ubiquitous (which it is IMO, especially over there) is the reason why the middle class, educated white people are the only ones the media has made any attempt to effectively communicate said issues to at all in the first place.
 
No where near enough far enough ahead with the amount or urban and postal votes to go.
I dunno mate. I've not stayed up all night and am just doing my own analysis now. After my previous (hopeful) comment that I think BIden is still on course to win, I have to say I think I have changed my mind and that earlier comment was mistaken.

Biden is sure to win Nevada, Arizona and Maine... which will take him to 243. But where is he going to get the other 27 from?

Pennsylvania is IMO gone - a 9 point gap is too big, even iwith many votes still to count. Michigan, ditto. Alaska ditto.

That leaves Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia as the only places where IMO Biden can pick up votes from. He needs two of the three and yet he's behind in all of them with (in the case of N.C. and Ga.) not many votes left.

It's starting to look to me right now that Trump may have held on. God help us all.

(I have no clue what this situation is with Hawaii and why it is never talked about.)
 
They certainly are, they want radical reform yet back Biden because he might get rid of Trump. Now Biden isn't delivering they want to throw the whole democratic party under the bus.

Mistakes they are making are.

Talking about punching people in the face.
Calling white people racists
Ignoring the fact before tonight they were supporting Biden like they supported Clinton.

What they have to change is the belief that other people might have different opinions than they have.
I wrote on similar lines, but not as forensic.

As a said, TYT lost their principles backing Biden and haven't read the signs. Even by their own count, as I went to sleep finally, there were 8 more 'Justice Dems voted in down ballot. There's the clue, right there.

Mixed principles leave you lost.
 
I dunno mate. I've not stayed up all night and am just doing my own analysis now. After my previous (hopeful) comment that I think BIden is still on course to win, I have to say I think I have changed my mind and that earlier comment was mistaken.

Biden is sure to win Nevada, Arizona and Maine... which will take him to 243. But where is he going to get the other 27 from?

Pennsylvania is IMO gone - a 9 point gap is too big, even iwith many votes still to count. Michigan, ditto. Alaska ditto.

That leaves Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia as the only places where IMO Biden can pick up votes from. He needs two of the three and yet he's behind in all of them with (in the case of N.C. and Ga.) not many votes left.

It's starting to look to me right now that Trump may have held on. God help us all.

(I have no clue what this situation is with Hawaii and why it is never talked about.)

BBC just said Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan is enough for Biden because of the Nebraska single vote.

Hawaii is blue, always.
 
I dunno mate. I've not stayed up all night and am just doing my own analysis now. After my previous (hopeful) comment that I think BIden is still on course to win, I have to say I think I have changed my mind and that earlier comment was mistaken.

Biden is sure to win Nevada, Arizona and Maine... which will take him to 243. But where is he going to get the other 27 from?

Pennsylvania is IMO gone - a 9 point gap is too big, even iwith many votes still to count. Michigan, ditto. Alaska ditto.

That leaves Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia as the only places where IMO Biden can pick up votes from. He needs two of the three and yet he's behind in all of them with (in the case of N.C. and Ga.) not many votes left.

It's starting to look to me right now that Trump may have held on. God help us all.

(I have no clue what this situation is with Hawaii and why it is never talked about.)
Hawaii is solid blue
 
You have to hand it to Trump. According to every news outlet he would not get a second term. The predictions are wrong again. He is ahead in the states that matter and looks to have won.

Same with city, media narrative is biased and one sided as people don’t want to acknowledge he has a huge voting base.
 
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