2020 US Elections

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TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
I might duck out soon because I'm still not seeing it, through British eyes. I need to see contemporaneous evidence describing 'predator' or 'super-predator' as code words for black kids because I'm not finding it in my searches. My suspicion is it has been inferred onto it over the passage of time. The link by the way suggests that the Dems were not using racial code (or at least not before 2012, the date of the article) but if you suspect every time someone chooses to use the word 'crime' they are using it as a code-word, I think we're done.

It's all moot anyway in terms of the presidential debate as it will count for nought.
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I didn't make the word "crime" as the basis of my post. It came from the link you posted.

I used it in the conjoining of word association for treatment of a demographic of society as evidenced by the YT posts coming from the antagonists themselves.

Yes, it is 'moot', for you and those unaffected, but not to those that hesitate to vote, such was my initial point.
 
Damocles said:
No I think Trump embarrassed himself, his country, and his party and Biden absolutely trounced him on almost every issue.

But that wasn't and still isn't my takeaway from the night. My takeaway is that it was a circus sideshow which the entire country should be ashamed of and make them all want to throw their candidates off the nearest cliff rather than endlessly and pointlessly discussing how their guy "won" or actually "was only like that because of the other guy". But the vast majority aren't going to do that because they are brainwashed partisans who like their guy or much more accurately, hate the other guy so much that everything that they do is evidence of wrongdoing.

The entire show was disgusting. These tweets sums up my views on the entire thing:

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I'll remind you that this was a DEBATE by two grown adult men in politics who will have control of the greatest military arsenal in the history of mankind while also being the economic, cultural and scientific centre of at least the Anglosphere if not the entire world. It's fucking embarrassing.
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I agree with most of that, though given the manner in which Trump approached the "debate" I'm not exactly sure what Biden was supposed to do besides jump in. If he just stood there observing the rules everyone would've said Trump ran him over. The cause for that mess last night is one sided.

Also the Biden "rapist" meme is fucking stupid at this point. Seeing how in the weeds you get on everything else I'm genuinely surprised you pay that any mind.
 
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SWP's back said:
I’m gonna be honest, you’ve intrigued me as to what the “actual” far right groups think of Trump and I want to look for myself. All jokes aside, is it storm front that would be the place to look at? (VPN at the ready as I don’t want to end up on some monitoring list - more than I am now).
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No. Telegram groups, Gab, Voat, and 8kun are decent places to start to look at where the younger far right people hang around. There's theDonald.win for the born and bred Trumpites and 4chan /pol/ for a much more populist trollling but heavily astroturfed view on things. But usually for groups who seem to be organised or "promoting" rather than individuals it's Telegram.

For video materials then BitChute is your Youtube replacement. The American right have basically built an alternative social media ecosystem for themselves, and that tends to house the far right. Though your normal Twitter has tons of nationalists and shades of far right on. I find British nationalists on there particularly amusing personally.

Bring a thick skin. Some of that content is a bit ....difficult... to read. They new far right groups are not just obsessed with Jews as they always were but the increase in interracial porn is something that they are furious about, hilariously.

You'll also find that the "Proud Boys" are far from some neo-Nazi group, and are more Libertarian right than far right wing. They have numerous non-white members and explicitly ban people for racism. The far right racists aren't fans of them either because they let black people in. You're basically going to look at actual far right people who genuinely want to genocide people who are active in US politics rather than the media fed "far right" like the Proud Boys so at least be aware of that up front.
 
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Damocles said:
No. Telegram groups, Gab, Voat, and 8kun are decent places to start to look at where the younger far right people hang around. There's theDonald.win for the born and bred Trumpites and 4chan /pol/ for a much more populist trollling but heavily astroturfed view on things. But usually for groups who seem to be organised or "promoting" rather than individuals it's Telegram.

For video materials then BitChute is your Youtube replacement. The American right have basically built an alternative social media ecosystem for themselves, and that tends to house the far right. Though your normal Twitter has tons of nationalists and shades of far right on. I find British nationalists on there particularly amusing personally.

Bring a thick skin. Some of that content is a bit ....difficult... to read. They new far right groups are not just obsessed with Jews as they always were but the increase in interracial porn is something that they are furious about, hilariously.
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Fuck I’m old. I had to google Telegram. Appreciate the reply. I’ll rubber up and have a dive into the abyss tomorrow.
 
SWP's back said:
I’m gonna be honest, you’ve intrigued me as to what the “actual” far right groups think of Trump and I want to look for myself. All jokes aside, is it storm front that would be the place to look at? (VPN at the ready as I don’t want to end up on some monitoring list - more than I am now).
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The only list you will end up on is the Trump Campaign mailing list tapping you up for donations.

Avoid the Q stuff, that’s real ‘suck your brains out with a vacuum cleaner’ shit.

Libertarians are just shy fascists and authoritarians still in the closet.
 
I wonder if someone on here finds it hard to support her but disagree with her thoughts...



Nah, appearing “right” is probably much more important.
 
I’d wager they very much do as and usual, you’re so far wrong, that you can’t even comprehend what right is anymore.

sad (indeed)
 
Bigga said:
You should put your Big Boy pants on and name them.
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Ha. I’ve shat things bigga than you pal. 5’ 5” on your tippy toes. I don’t need big boy pants to call you out, been doing it for years. And you knew it was you straight away.

You spent all day making excuses for Trump, so what do you have to say when your progressive heroine agrees with the rest of the forum (bar Damocles - because... well.. Damocles)?

Difference between you and her? She’s living in the real world and does actually care about the election results and what it means to Americans rather than viewing it as some pseudo intellectual online game where the winner gets internetz pointz.
 
The Republican party abolished slavery
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican ,the Democrats were pro slavery , so im not sure the white supremacist angle has much legs
The intrinsic historical values of Republicans are equality and meritocracy
 
somethingelse said:
The Republican party abolished slavery
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican ,the Democrats were pro slavery , so im not sure the white supremacist angle has much legs
The intrinsic historical values of Republicans are equality and meritocracy
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Hey, good thing nothing's changed in 160 years, otherwise your argument would look pretty stup . . . oh, never mind.
 
somethingelse said:
The Republican party abolished slavery
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican ,the Democrats were pro slavery , so im not sure the white supremacist angle has much legs
The intrinsic historical values of Republicans are equality and meritocracy
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Oh wow. It’s not often that people show up their own complete lack of reading on a subject quite so spectacularly.


factmyth.com

Democrats and Republicans Switched Platforms - Fact or Myth?

The US political parties, now called Democrats and Republicans, switched platform planks, ideologies, and members many times in American history.
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edit. Scratch that. Just seen who I’m replying to. You do it every political post. As you were.
 
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