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Let's be honest, if you've lived through the last four years and you're undecided, you're clearly a moron.

Unless it's one of those "I stand to benefit from this prick, but I don't know if my conscience can take it" situations.
I’d say that if you’ve lived through the last four years and are voting for Trump you’re clearly a moron.

Add that to the undecideds and that’s about half the population of the US.

Makes you you think that voters should have to pass some sort of basic intelligence test before being allowed to vote.
 
I have heard that the debate is on 29th at 2.00 a.m. which is tomorrow unless it's on Wednesday morning. Could anyone clarify when it is on? My brief Google search didn't help me much. Cheers.
Wednesday morning for us. Tuesday night in US.
 
Oh, I like this thread as I can call BOTH these idiots and parties out!

To the NeoLib champagne/ red wine tasters that continually talk down to the “they’re both the same” crowd, you've not been on the end of the policies that affect you as poor, as Black and Brown people.

As ones starting on that 60 metre line, you don't nor will ever understand the years of neglect and abuse by the hands of the wealthy or politicians that promise change only to retract that sale as they're courted by the rich corporations to do their bidding instead.

You people are disingenuous to the core and why 'incrementalism' is of such value to you as it always keeps you that much ahead.

In your fantasy you continue to believe only one is a 'snake oil salesman' whilst in reality, the other 'salesman' would like you to believe he has good intentions for the disenfranchised.

They're BOTH salesman competing against each other for the same billionaire owners!!

There's not a chance in hell Biden gets to exact any of his 'promises' in real terms without down ballot races affecting the cities, states and senate. And whilst that's happening the economy (not Wall St) is going to have to turn and shit loads after that.

This Pres vote is just to get #45 out. It will not change fortunes for people within a Biden Admin. As a nation you've took the piss out of your citizens for too long!

You might want to look prettier to yourself and the outside world, but your problems are more than skin deep and almost rotten to the core.
 
Oh, I like this thread as I can call BOTH these idiots and parties out!

To the NeoLib champagne/ red wine tasters that continually talk down to the “they’re both the same” crowd, you've not been on the end of the policies that affect you as poor, as Black and Brown people.

As ones starting on that 60 metre line, you don't nor will ever understand the years of neglect and abuse by the hands of the wealthy or politicians that promise change only to retract that sale as they're courted by the rich corporations to do their bidding instead.

You people are disingenuous to the core and why 'incrementalism' is of such value to you as it always keeps you that much ahead.

In your fantasy you continue to believe only one is a 'snake oil salesman' whilst in reality, the other 'salesman' would like you to believe he has good intentions for the disenfranchised.

They're BOTH salesman competing against each other for the same billionaire owners!!

There's not a chance in hell Biden gets to exact any of his 'promises' in real terms without down ballot races affecting the cities, states and senate. And whilst that's happening the economy (not Wall St) is going to have to turn and shit loads after that.

This Pres vote is just to get #45 out. It will not change fortunes for people within a Biden Admin. As a nation you've took the piss out of your citizens for too long!

You might want to look prettier to yourself and the outside world, but your problems are more than skin deep and almost rotten to the core.

Are you American?
 
Both are shit candidates. Feel sorry for the general public. Their future is at stake by drama artists They being duped into selecting either a perv or a peado. Someone who's quick to sanction other countries or someone who's a war mongerer. Fuck, the Americans are so stupid to buy this shit.
There is Jo Jorgensen if anyone is interested in good candidates :)
 
The first debate is here in Cleveland, scene of the 2016 RNC. Thankfully, this time downtown hasn’t been turned into something like a DMZ from Bladerunner. Partly due to Covid and partly due to the fact that it’s a few miles down Euclid Avenue in the Uptown/ University Circle neighborhood. We still had plenty of yahoos driving all around the city at the weekend in their pickup trucks, waving their flags. I passed a group of the clowns on a sidewalk in a west-side suburb on Saturday morning. It was like a cross between an old people’s home day out and One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
We also have the pleasure of a bus load of ‘Proud Boys’ hitting town too. Hate these fuckers with a passion. Not only because they’re racist scumbags, but also they are the reason I can’t wear my Fred Perry shirts nowadays.
What's a Fred Perry shirt and why can't you wear yours?
 
It's quite funny that the forums favourite loon spouts literally everything that Cambridge Analytica designed to target young black Americans to get them not to vote, all the while thinking he's the only free thinker and that everyone else is sheep. But hey, maybe the Russians and far right were correct and they only data mined the information of millions of people to help them see the light?
 
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