This Pelosi thing you're going on about is such incredible bullshit. Pelosi and the rest of the House Dems passed a $3.4 trillion stimulus bill in fucking JUNE that was never taken up by the Senate and ignored by the President for literally the entire summer. They passed another $2.2 trillion dollar bill at the end of September and again the bill was ignored, in both cases because McConnell knows that he can't get Republican votes for it in the Senate. Not a peep from you that entire time. The President then tweeted in early October that he was "walking away" from the deal only to reverse course a day later after the stock market tanked in an extremely transparent election play. If you seriously think Nancy Pelosi is the reason we don't have stimulus you're even dumber than I thought.
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Bigga
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This Pelosi thing you're going on about is such incredible bullshit. Pelosi and the rest of the House Dems passed a $3.4 trillion stimulus bill in fucking JUNE that was never taken up by the Senate and ignored by the President for literally the entire summer. They passed another $2.2 trillion dollar bill at the end of September and again the bill was ignored, in both cases because McConnell knows that he can't get Republican votes for it in the Senate. Not a peep from you that entire time. The President then tweeted in early October that he was "walking away" from the deal only to walk it back a day later after the stock market tanked. If you seriously think Nancy Pelosi is the reason we don't have stimulus you're even dumber than I thought.
Passing a deal in the House is irrelevant and what's "bullshit". How do you make a deal with yourself?
The counter offer has gone to $1.8T. She was happy to grant a bigger stimulus for business, so why not just take it for the people even if it's not what she wanted?
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Rather like voting for Biden even if he's not what you wanted.Passing a deal in the House is irrelevant and what's "bullshit". How do you make a deal with yourself?
The counter offer has gone to $1.8T. She was happy to grant a bigger stimulus for business, so why not just take it for the people even if it's not what she wanted?
I'll make this easy for you. Democrats have been willing to pass a massive stimulus bill for months now, evidenced by the fact that they literally did so back in June and again in September, and Republicans have been stonewalling it the entire time because their coalition doesn't support it. No criticism of that from you at all. But the very second Pelosi doesn't play along with Trump's ridiculous and transparently obvious election gambit and actually tries to negotiate instead of thanking Republicans for their benevolence Democrats all of a sudden don't care about working people. Give me a fucking break.Passing a deal in the House is irrelevant and what's "bullshit". How do you make a deal with yourself?
The counter offer has gone to $1.8T. She was happy to grant a bigger stimulus for business, so why not just take it for the people even if it's not what she wanted?
Bigga
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See how the principle spreads itself?Rather like voting for Biden even if he's not what you wanted.
It's okay for Pelosi to do what she's doing but, people are on my case cos I feel the choice ain't right?
Is the board two faced or not...?
Bigga
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But... but... but... She's fighting for the people and the people are starving and being evicted...I'll make this easy for you. Democrats have been willing to pass a massive stimulus bill for months now, evidenced by the fact that they literally did so back in June and again in September, and Republicans have been stonewalling it the entire time because their coalition doesn't support it. No criticism of that from you at all. But the very second Pelosi doesn't play along with Trump's ridiculous and transparently obvious election gambit and actually tries to negotiate instead of thanking Republicans for their benevolence Democrats all of a sudden don't care about working people. Give me a fucking break.
Nobody should give a shit what the pres is doing when you can accept and tell the people the caveat behind accepting.
One is called negotiating, the other is you being a petulant child because you didn't get the exact flavor of ice cream you wanted.See how the principle spreads itself?
It's okay for Pelosi to do what she's doing but, people are on my case cos I feel the choice ain't right?
Is the board two faced or not...?
Spin spin spin, change the subject more. I've wasted enough time on you already today.But... but... but... She's fighting for the people and the people are starving and being evicted...
Nobody should give a shit what the pres is doing when you can accept and tell the people the caveat behind accepting.
Bigga
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She hasn't spoken to the pres in a year, directly.One is called negotiating, the other is you being a petulant child because you didn't get the exact flavor of ice cream you wanted.
She says herself she does it through the media.
Who's the "petulant child"...?
At least I listen to what she says unlike some on here...
Bigga
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Spin spin spin, change the subject more. I've wasted enough time on you already today.
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Only as much as you are. Don't take that the wrong way and I am not joining in the Pelosi discussion as I lack the knowledge on this subject. It's just that you advocated take the deal as offered because compromise is the best thing in this case but you seem intent on ignoring that suggestion when it comes to voting for Biden.See how the principle spreads itself?
It's okay for Pelosi to do what she's doing but, people are on my case cos I feel the choice ain't right?
Is the board two faced or not...?
You know my thoughts on this Bigga. Go with the horse that's running because getting a little of what you want with perhaps more to come down the line or get stuck with an even worse situation.
She's trying to beat Trump.How about focusing on what Pelosi's actions are.
She affects things. I don't as you lot are quick to point out.
Why do you not have an opinion on what she's doing?
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I'm not sure that I know what it looks like anymore. :-)
Why do you think two neolibs agreeing a deal is a good thing?Passing a deal in the House is irrelevant and what's "bullshit". How do you make a deal with yourself?
The counter offer has gone to $1.8T. She was happy to grant a bigger stimulus for business, so why not just take it for the people even if it's not what she wanted?
Bigga
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See that's the point, Doc! I was holding up the mirror of not coming to a compromise when it's viewed as the best way forward. It's alright for Pelosi to get the backing on principle when people are ACTUALLY SUFFERING, but I get rounded on cos I hold THOUGHTS on the candidates!Only as much as you are. Don't take that the wrong way and I am not joining in the Pelosi discussion as I lack the knowledge on this subject. It's just that you advocated take the deal as offered because compromise is the best thing in this case but you seem intent on ignoring that suggestion when it comes to voting for Biden.
You know my thoughts on this Bigga. Go with the horse that's running because getting a little of what you want with perhaps more to come down the line or get stuck with an even worse situation.
The hypocrisy is AMAZING!!
Bigga
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I think neolibs are awful creatures of their principle, but people have been crying since the beginning of these types of discussions that people are suffering NOW!Why do you think two neolibs agreeing a deal is a good thing?
The very same people aren't decrying Pelosi, though.
I find it all rather interesting.
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Right guys. Own up. Who put 50p in Bigga today?
gordondaviesmoustache
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Here you go, smart guy. Here's the 'leader' of the Dems refusing to accept the much needed $1.8T, which is more than what Obama gave to bail out the banks after the crash.
Tame Wolf Blitzer as well, not playing the game!! LOL!
What's she waiting for if the people are so important?!
She looks seriously good for 80; no ostensible work either.
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So, I think we probably agree? For me compromise is always key. I'll leave you all to it.See that's the point, Doc! I was holding up the mirror of not coming to a compromise when it's viewed as the best way forward. It's alright for Pelosi to get the backing on principle when people are ACTUALLY SUFFERING, but I get rounded on cos I hold THOUGHTS on the candidates!
The hypocrisy is AMAZING!!
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The American Mary Berry. She does look good, I had no idea she is that age.She looks seriously good for 80; no ostensible work either.
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