No one thinks you're a fan of Trump. You haven't participated in any of the discussions here for the years we've been having them and you haven't demonstrated that you have any grasp of America, its people, nor its politics. Do you care about learning from those of us who do have a grasp? I won't "debate" you because I don't know what we're debating. I don't recall your post about "democratic subversion" and "voter fraud" and I'd rather discuss the issues at hand with those who have something to gain/lose, in reality or emotionally. You don't because you've already decided that something that doesn't matter to the vast majority of Americans (that there's no "left wing" as a Brit would define it -- yeah? So the fuck what?) is more important because it matters to you. I don't agree; what's the point in debating?
Another thought: if the politics "don't matter" because they're "the same" you should be even MORE appalled by Trump than the rest of us, because you should be making a call solely based on the person. Why aren't you?
My post was only a few pages back, it had a video attached from Yanis Varoufakis, and it is relevant to the whole of the western world. Ok if you don't want to read my post, its not a problem and my view is from a British perspective of course because the board we are on is based in the UK. So i am defo seeing things from a totally different perspective to you because you live it directly, i live it indirectly, Which was the point of the post you don't want to debate which is again fair enough because it doesn't affect you per se. Although i would argue it will affect you in the future.
Whether you like it or are indeed even interested what Trump is doing with the whole voter fraud delusion it is affecting the UK and its effects on the UK politics do matter to me, because his politics are seen by our far right as examplars of how they can achieve power. The planting of seeds around voter fraud ferment in the minds of the far right and will lead to a situation where minorities in the UK are delegitimised and disenfranchised. Again that is of no import to you as you don't live here but I do and the rise of the far right and the spectre of fascism is on the rise across the whole of Europe.
In a way then we are cross debating, because we have different agenda to debate about. What happens in your country is of course your business and what happens in mine is my business but there are crossovers in the debate and issues that affect both of our nations and Trump is the factor.
I reiterate i think Trump is a twat, but i dont live under his twatishness, it does affect us though. Our politics and political parties are different, our political processes and electoral systems are different and when i compare and contrast UK and US political parties i do see differences. As i am of the far left in todays UK terms, possibly something you do not come across very often in the US where the likes of Biden are routinely described as Socialists it is obvious where we differ. I do see the two American parties as right wing parties, but i am as i described earlier an anti capitalist and anti free market. I am a statist who would be inherently comfortable with a command economy. I am also of the leftist tradition of Lenin in that i am anti imperialist as well, so maybe that explains to you why Biden as a hawk is somebody i do see as a threat. I am also NATO sceptic and believe it lost its original mission and has become a tool for corporate capitalist expansionism.
Again though as much as i think Trump is a twat, ****, fuck face or whatever other expletive is fashionable i do still him as a person who has halted corporate expansionism through his NATO sceptic approach. I abhor his racism and his pandering to the far right in the US and i do think he is a narcissist on a par with our PM, but they are both products of capitalism and therefore i have different reasons for my abhorrence than maybe you do.
