2020 US Elections

[FogBlueInSanFran]

He's bad at geography doesn't mean he is bad at computers. My main reason to ask is I am friends with a Trumper who uncritically repeats all of his election claims. I'd like to be able to challenge his assertions

"I am really looking forward to City's season. I'm confident we'll win the league this year. After all, we've won it before. And I know a lot about City. I've been a fan for a long time."

"Yes, the side looks pretty good. I'm excited too. Why are you so optimistic?"

"Well, here's the evidence: we have KDB of course, and the best manager in the world. And then there's Harry Kane, Mo Salah and that pointy-chinned fellow, Vardy. I think we'll score a lot of goals."

"Errrrrrrrrrrr . . . but those guys don't play for City."

"Well, just because I'm bad at knowing who plays for City doesn't mean I'm bad at football predictions."

 

[buckshot]

I'm getting the feeling that there will be an attempt to arrest Biden and Harris before this is over. I can't imagine a scenario where they haven't already discussed it.

 

[Rascal]

Trotsky explained or Trotsky opined?

In my eyes explained, in others he opined.

Trotsky's explanation of Fascism is seminal in my opinion. Umberto Eco's 14 attributes is an excellent summation again in my opinion.

I am sure other sources are available. Orwell for one is very good, then again he was brilliant at everything.

 

[domalino]

"I am an adult of sound mine"

 

[deegee33]

He wants to run in 4 years, so needs to walk the tightrope between not destroying faith in democracy as he will need their votes, but also sucking up to trump enough to keep trumps base on his side

Just out of curiosity, what office do you think that T.C. might run for, or, in fact, be qualified for? And I realize, with having lived through the last four years of the US government, that qualified is a term used quite loosely.

 

[JASR]

If this current debacle doesn't demonstrate to people how the US constitution is unfit for purpose, then they are totally beyond help.

Agreed, but I remember thinking this every 4 years since at least the Reagan years (when I became interested), and they’ve done diddly every time.

maybe Biden et al, will push for democratic processes, but I doubt it.

republicans possibly even less in favour of change, as their general base becomes ever older , smaller (percentage wise) and increasingly concentrated in non-urban states.

 

[mrbelfry]

I’d tell him to fuck off and make some new friends with people who aren’t complete idiots.

I'm not not an idiot

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

But what do you suggest? If the President isn't going to abide by the rules, laws, traditions, and history of his predecessors, and his party is going to be complicit in ignoring them and enable such, what Constitution is fit for purpose? Anyhow, I'm not sure I agree -- the courts are doing what they are supposed to thus far; this isn't going anywhere. It's a pantomime. A pantomime that will allow Trump and his supporters to live in a fantasy land where they had the election stolen. And -- far more importantly -- will allow Trump and those in on the Trump con to fleece the snot out of the hapless.

I don’t know. Not thought about it enough, but I believe it’s far too unwieldy and anachronistic. Why such a long transition period? It’s a relic of a bygone age So much can go wrong in three months. Especially where an orderly and civilised transfer of power is being wantonly obstructed.

Not saying our system is any better btw. They are both wank.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I don’t know. Not thought about it enough, but I believe it’s far too unwieldy and anachronistic. Why such a long transition period? It’s a relic of a bygone age So much can go wrong in three months. Especially where an orderly and civilised transfer of power is being wantonly obstructed.

Not saying our system is any better btw. They are both wank.

Fair point on the lame duck transition period.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Agreed, but I remember thinking this every 4 years since at least the Reagan years (when I became interested), and they’ve done diddly every time.

maybe Biden et al, will push for democratic processes, but I doubt it.

republicans possibly even less in favour of change, as their general base becomes ever older , smaller (percentage wise) and increasingly concentrated in non-urban states.

I can defiteky see the Union spolitting in some way in the next 10-15 years. Used to think it would take longer.