2020 US Elections

[Ban-jani]

tbh, I’ve seen more convincing white supremacists.

Proud Boys really aren’t white supremacists, so you’re right.

On another note, reading the recent ramblings of the mad man, America is going to be far better off when they’re rid of him, he’s like a parody of a parody.

 

[penguins4kompany]

Courage says the bone spur coward.

You can't have your cake and eat it. Accepting the Vietnam war was a travesty and a proven act of US imperialistic war crimes, yet condemn someone for not taking part in it for whatever reasons is hypocrisy.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

You can't have your cake and eat it. Accepting the Vietnam war was a travesty and a proven act of US imperialistic war crimes, yet condemn someone for not taking part in it for whatever reasons is hypocrisy.

Someone dodging the draft - out of cowardice - is not on the same footing as someone refusing to be drafted on the basis of moral conviction. The former is worthy of contempt - the later - either of grudging respect or of outright admiration, depending on your personal beliefs.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Someone dodging the draft - because of cowardice - is not on the same footing as someone refusing to be drafted due to moral principals.

Especially given that person gives it the Billy Big Bollocks about others lacking ‘courage’.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You can't have your cake and eat it. Accepting the Vietnam war was a travesty and a proven act of US imperialistic war crimes, yet condemn someone for not taking part in it for whatever reasons is hypocrisy.

Would you characterise Trump as someone who was courageous?

 

[penguins4kompany]

Would you characterise Trump as someone who was courageous?

That's neither here nor there. Are you saying that if he'd gone and participated in that war you'd hold him in higher esteem ?

 

[penguins4kompany]

Someone dodging the draft - out of cowardice - is not on the same footing as someone refusing to be drafted on the basis of moral conviction. The former is worthy of contempt - the later - either of grudging respect or of outright admiration, depending on your personal beliefs.

Anyone who avoided that shitshow shouldn't be vilified. Bless those that weren't so fortunate.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

That's neither here nor there. Are you saying that if he'd gone and participated in that war you'd hold him in higher esteem ?

It’s not neither here nor there when he accused others of lacking it. By failing to answer the question you give a similar impression tbh.

it’s a difficult question to answer with a straight yes or no, as there are many variables, but I’d certainly hold him in hugher esteem if he didn’t constantly feel the need to denigrate others, irrespective of whether he participated in the war or not. Certainly those that participated in the war generally did so out of a sense of social duty that Trump manifestly lacks - so in very broad terms I’d say yes.

 

[roman totale]

Finally, a political chant I can get on board with. The GOP own this 100%. What’s even sweeter is that any idiot could see this coming four years ago.

 

[penguins4kompany]

It’s not neither here nor there when he accused others of lacking it. By failing to answer the question you give a similar impression tbh.

it’s a difficult question to answer with a straight yes or no, as there are many variables, but I’d certainly hold him in hugher esteem if he didn’t constantly feel the need to denigrate others, irrespective of whether he participated in the war or not. Certainly those that participated in the war generally did so out of a sense of social duty that Trump manifestly lacks - so in very broad terms I’d say yes.

Courage ,being the key word here, is being manifestly used in totally different contexts then.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Courage ,being the key word here, is being manifestly used in totally different contexts then.

Do you think he is courageous?

 

[penguins4kompany]

It’s not neither here nor there when he accused others of lacking it. By failing to answer the question you give a similar impression tbh.

it’s a difficult question to answer with a straight yes or no, as there are many variables, but I’d certainly hold him in hugher esteem if he didn’t constantly feel the need to denigrate others, irrespective of whether he participated in the war or not. Certainly those that participated in the war generally did so out of a sense of social duty that Trump manifestly lacks - so in very broad terms I’d say yes.

Social duty should not come into it. That was the ruse.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Social duty should not come into it. That was the ruse.

Ruse or not, it definitely entered the minds of many of those that participated in that war, which I would say rendered them to be courageous.

Do you think Trump is courageous? Are you struggling to understand the question?

 

[penguins4kompany]

Do you think he is courageous?

Well he's not just slinking away in acceptance of a perceived injustice so in a way that shows courage to fight for what he believes is right. Whether that's misguided or naive, but definitely not courageous. Desperate perhaps , or there's something in it.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Finally, a political chant I can get on board with. The GOP own this 100%. What’s even sweeter is that any idiot could see this coming four years ago.

what these mental cases don't get is the GOP has done everything in its LEGAL power to keep Trump in office but they cannot provide any evidence that the election was stolen because it wasn't - million MAGA march is a march of a million babies

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Well he's not just slinking away in acceptance of a perceived injustice so in a way that shows courage to fight for what he believes is right.

In what way does it show courage?

 

[andyhinch]

In what way does it show courage?

It doesn’t, just a argument for the foolish to believe.

 

[west didsblue]

Finally, a political chant I can get on board with. The GOP own this 100%. What’s even sweeter is that any idiot could see this coming four years ago.

Excellent news. If 3/4 of the GOP break away and form the Trump fascist party that should screw them up for a generation.

 

[bluethrunthru]

amazing how Republicans change their tune on Covid when it hits one of their own

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Excellent news. If 3/4 of the GOP break away and form the Trump fascist party that should screw them up for a generation.

But we were told by other posters here, who have exactly as much courage as Trump and his GOP enabler eunuchs, that it’s the Democrats who are un-unified.