2022 World Cup Discussion

[hammocity]

I don't think I've bothered about it since Garrincha was in his Goat…

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[waspish]

I’ll be watching but never get excited about England unless they get to the 1/4

 

[give it to gordon]

Not interested in the WC to be honest.

Pundits taking money to work there at the same time banging on about human rights.

But my main gripe is no one talks about American's poor human rights. Havent some states in the usa banned abortion ?. America has a poor human rights record against non white Americans. The native Americans were treated badly for decades as was the non white.

Their ex president was a racist and encouraged people to storm the white house because he lost.

You are free to carry guns but not but a kinder egg as kinder eggs are dangerous lol.

It's all bollocks !

 

[KentBlue]

The players will be running out onto a scorching, furnace of a pitch trying to give it 100% (well, not Kane(pen) obviously) and I'm genuinely fearing the worst for most of them.

Biggest mistake in world football having it out there.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The players will be running out onto a scorching, furnace of a pitch trying to give it 100% (well, not Kane(pen) obviously) and I'm genuinely fearing the worst for most of them.

Biggest mistake in world football having it out there.

Sorry, but putting a Blatter and Platini in charge was the biggest mistake in world football.…

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

So, this year’s World Cup is in Qatar; a country ahead of Russia and Brazil for human rights, yet far more is being made about them as they are Arabs.

Qatar 88th
Russia 12th
Brazil 36th

Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2024 based on 175 countries was 5.42 index points. The highest value was in Iran: 10 index points and the lowest value was in Iceland: 0.2 index points. The indicator is available from 2007 to 2024. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

1966 World Cup was held in a country where over 3000 people died at work in the preceding 10 years and homosexuality was illegal. 17 years after the World Cup an openly gay man, Peter Tatchell, was involved in a by-election where he was openly abused and attacked by constituents, political opponents and the public at large.

Tatchell was assaulted in the street, had his flat attacked, and had a death threat and a live bullet put through his letterbox in the night. Although the Bermondsey seat had long been a Labour stronghold, the Liberal candidate, Simon Hughes won the election. During the campaign, Liberal canvassers were accused of stirring up homophobia on the doorsteps. Male Liberal workers campaigned wearing lapel badges with the words, "I've been kissed by Peter Tatchell" following the suggestion that he was attempting to hide his sexuality; One of Hughes' campaign leaflets claimed the election was "a straight choice" between Liberal and Labour.
Hughes has since apologised for what may have been seen as an ’inadvertent‘ slur and later, rather hilariously, came out as bisexual in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tatchell

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

1966 World Cup was held in a country where over 3000 people died at work in the preceding 10 years and homosexuality was illegal. 17 years after the World Cup an openly gay man, Peter Tatchell, was involved in a by-election where he was openly abused and attacked by constituents, political opponents and the public at large.

Tatchell was assaulted in the street, had his flat attacked, and had a death threat and a live bullet put through his letterbox in the night. Although the Bermondsey seat had long been a Labour stronghold, the Liberal candidate, Simon Hughes won the election. During the campaign, Liberal canvassers were accused of stirring up homophobia on the doorsteps. Male Liberal workers campaigned wearing lapel badges with the words, "I've been kissed by Peter Tatchell" following the suggestion that he was attempting to hide his sexuality; One of Hughes' campaign leaflets claimed the election was "a straight choice" between Liberal and Labour.
Hughes has since apologised for what may have been seen as an ’inadvertent‘ slur and later, rather hilariously, came out as bisexual in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tatchell

Life was a bit different back then, to be fair, but it is a valid comparison to make and shows that countries can change.

Not sure Brazil’s or Russia’s human rights records have improved since they held their World Cups though.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Life was a bit different back then, to be fair, but it is a valid comparison to make and shows that countries can change.

Not sure Brazil’s or Russia’s human rights records have improved since they held their World Cups though.

And ours are hurtling backwards ;-)

 

[halfcenturyup]

Oh yes. This is going to go well .....

"A Qatar World Cup ambassador calling homosexuality "damage in the mind" is "harmful and unacceptable", says Human Rights Watch.

Former Qatar international Khalid Salman told German broadcaster ZDF that LGBTQ+ people attending the tournament should "accept our rules". Homosexuality is illegal in Qatar because it is considered immoral under Islamic Sharia law.

Salman said: "[Homosexuality] is haram. You know what haram [forbidden] means?" When asked why it was haram, he added: "I am not a strict Muslim but why is it haram? Because it is damage in the mind."

The interview, which is part of a documentary set to be broadcast on Tuesday, was then stopped by an accompanying official."

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

So, this year’s World Cup is in Qatar; a country ahead of Russia and Brazil for human rights, yet far more is being made about them as they are Arabs.

Qatar 88th
Russia 12th
Brazil 36th

Human rights and rule of law index by country, around the world | TheGlobalEconomy.com

The average for 2024 based on 175 countries was 5.42 index points. The highest value was in Iran: 10 index points and the lowest value was in Iceland: 0.2 index points. The indicator is available from 2007 to 2024. Below is a chart for all countries where data are available.

www.theglobaleconomy.com

I think it's the fact it was so corrupt and its clearly unsuited. The fact they had to move it to winter. Build all the stadiums with slave labour and then they will just get abandoned. Its just so wrong, there is no reason for it to be there other than corruption.

Human rights is the cherry on top.