24 Hours In Police Custody

[Stoned Rose]

I was talking to my mate last night who's a DC in the dibble.

He said it was up to the coppers to decide to charge the guy. He said they could have just let him go with a warning instead of dragging him into court and sending him to prison as that's not in public interest.

Your mate knows the square root of less than fuck all then.

 

[Stoned Rose]

It is cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to put them to death though. I don't know if that was part of your thinking. But there's a big gap in costs too

Source for the claim in your first sentence?

 

[BrianW]

It is cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to put them to death though. I don't know if that was part of your thinking. But there's a big gap in costs too

I don't think the death penalty is a practical solution. There are times when I think individuals deserve it, but you cannot recall a wrongly-convicted person from the dead.

I do think a life of crime should be made utterly profitless. If I was in charge there would be a concept of criminal bankruptcy, and the guilty party would have all their assets and income sequestered so that they would never have more than the bare dole until they repaid all the costs of their crimes.

But I also think there needs to be a vast investment in rehabilitation, including drug rehabilitation. In some cases, what is needed is treatment in a mental hospital, long or short-term. They may also need education because many are illiterate or innumerate. You would give them credit for achieving genuine targets.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I don't think the death penalty is a practical solution. There are times when I think individuals deserve it, but you cannot recall a wrongly-convicted person from the dead.

I do think a life of crime should be made utterly profitless. If I was in charge there would be a concept of criminal bankruptcy, and the guilty party would have all their assets and income sequestered so that they would never have more than the bare dole until they repaid all the costs of their crimes.

But I also think there needs to be a vast investment in rehabilitation, including drug rehabilitation. In some cases, what is needed is treatment in a mental hospital, long or short-term. They may also need education because many are illiterate or innumerate. You would give them credit for achieving genuine targets.

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Agree

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Whilst the theory is ok, i imagine most people commiting crime are doing so because they have fuck all. I dont think most have any assets to freeze and a life on the dole would mean paying back at a fiver a month

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Totally agree. There is little rehab, little on the way of getting them off drugs, which is a huge part Of the problem to begin with. They just end up in a vicious circle

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Me too. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not on criminals side, I just see they have no way out of their cycle without change somewhere in the system.

If you leave prison with £85, no house or family, what are they supposed to do?

We need long hard discussions about how to change the country across the board. At the moment, we still have a government asset stripping what is left of our services.

It’d be cheaper to give them £30k on the condition they stay out of prison! I’d do it just for the DT and DM reactions…….

 

[BrianW]

There is a concept called Universal Basic Income. Under it, every citizen gets a certain weekly sum, but certain benefits are withdrawn and taxes rise to claw back from the better off.

It might help reduce crimes for acquisition. But Daily Mail land is horrified by the idea, and of late a conspiracy theory has arisen that UBI is a plan to control us all and turn us into slaves.

Drugs (rather than bread) are at the root of many crimes. There is a case for considerable legalisation, with control and taxation (similar to fags and booze). It would help to break many of the criminal gangs, just as the abandonment of prohibition in the US ended the gangster era. But - the problem is, drugs are not a neutral thing. Use of them can cause all kinds of issues, including mental health damage, driving under the influence, impact on work to name but three. It would have to be carefully considered.

 

[paulchapo]

I disagree with the death penalty for the practical reason that in the past too many innocents have been wrongly convicted. I also believe strongly in the rule of law, because the alternative is barbarism.

However, what we have now does not work. We have a substantial class of habitual criminals who (one way or another) parasite off us all their lives. It costs big bucks to keep these people banged up in jail. Probably as much as to lodge them in a five-star hotel.

So we need to change the system. The question is - how? Simplistic solutions don't work and anything else will cost money.

Devils Island, well the modern equivalent. This is for habitual offenders who've decided they'd rather steal than work. Basic accomodation, tent cities, containers, who cares? They're given chances to mend their ways or off they go. Live in society by societies rules or go and live in mad Max land.