24 Hours In Police Custody

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Agree to some point, but working in a prison, 4 out of every 5 who are being released openly tell you that they are going to spend their £86 discharge grant on drugs, then are going to commit more crime, to either get their drugs or come back to a comfy stay in prison.
Years ago there used to be rehabilitation courses and help to get people into work on release, but due to cut backs there is nothing like that now.
We used to joke in Reception on release “we will see you next week” but nowadays it’s a certainty that we will.

This is what austerity means in reality though. They can’t get jobs because of their record and if they could, it’d be for peanuts unless they had their own legit business.

It‘s a vicious cycle that they can’t get out of, with some not even wanting to. That’s just a sad indictment of society.

I wouldn’t do your job in this day and age either.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The money will be long gone before they get to the enforcement stage.

Interim injunction?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Interim injunction?

One of the American Cyanamid principles is to only award an interlocutory injunction if damages aren’t an adequate remedy, which they plainly would be here. In the absence of any proof they are going to spunk the award of damages up the wall, not sure it meets the test.

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It would arguably be proceeds of crime, I guess. Not sure what the rules are around pursuing that privately.

 

[bluemick1]

This is what austerity means in reality though. They can’t get jobs because of their record and if they could, it’d be for peanuts unless they had their own legit business.

It‘s a vicious cycle that they can’t get out of, with some not even wanting to. That’s just a sad indictment of society.

I wouldn’t do your job in this day and age either.

When I joined the job 28 years ago, we made differences in peoples lives with lots of help to rehabilitate them back into society to live law abiding lives. Help with getting off drugs, housing and helping with employment. There is nothing like that now.
Austerity affects us all, I and many other people are struggling to make ends meet, but I still feel sorry for law abiding citizens when they become victims,when some people leach off the system and are out for what they can get, despite making innocent people suffer.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

When I joined the job 28 years ago, we made differences in peoples lives with lots of help to rehabilitate them back into society to live law abiding lives. Help with getting off drugs, housing and helping with employment. There is nothing like that now.
Austerity affects us all, I and many other people are struggling to make ends meet, but I still feel sorry for law abiding citizens when they become victims,when some people leach off the system and are out for what they can get, despite making innocent people suffer.

Me too. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not on criminals side, I just see they have no way out of their cycle without change somewhere in the system.

If you leave prison with £85, no house or family, what are they supposed to do?

We need long hard discussions about how to change the country across the board. At the moment, we still have a government asset stripping what is left of our services.

 

[bluemick1]

Me too. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not on criminals side, I just see they have no way out of their cycle without change somewhere in the system.

If you leave prison with £85, no house or family, what are they supposed to do?

We need long hard discussions about how to change the country across the board. At the moment, we still have a government asset stripping what is left of our services.

Agree with what you are saying, but a lot of them do have families and somewhere to live, in many cases paid for by us as we pay taxes to house them and their families, as they’ve no intention of trying to get into work, would interfere with their criminal activities

 

[Stoned Rose]

I get that and to an extent I agree. But he said he didn't know what they'd taken (if anything) and he's a sparky, so all his equipment was in the garage.

He obviously just lost it and went, we all lose it at some point. I'm not sure how it was in the public interest to charge him. I don't feel safer... or want people to feel like they have no power or any rights if they get broken into.

Yes he was silly, but I would bet that half of us on here would do similar.

I had my car broken into the other week and photography stuff taken. But before that my car and house has been attempted 4 times in 18 months. Once I went out with a pool cue i have next to the bed.... If i catch one and smash it over their back/head as they're running away with whatever they've taken, would you say that's wrong? I wouldn't

Not saying either way mate.

Just make sure you don’t speak to the dibble if you do.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Typical of somebody with no experience of dealing with them. He wrongly thought he'd done the right thing stopping two thieves getting away and they'd overlook he'd smashed his car into them nearly killing them in the process. Everytime he opened his mouth he screwed himself more.

His solicitor should’ve had his back and shut him the fuck up but was a **** and literally watched him jail himself.

 

[paulchapo]

His solicitor should’ve had his back and shut him the fuck up but was a **** and literally watched him jail himself.

In his head he'd done nothing wrong so he was happy to chat away. If he'd watched any reality shows involving police interviews he'd know the police chat all pally to most people, even murderer's, unless they're being arsey with them. All the time they're building a case.

 

[idahoblues]

In his head he'd done nothing wrong so he was happy to chat away. If he'd watched any reality shows involving police interviews he'd know the police chat all pally to most people, even murderer's, unless they're being arsey with them. All the time they're building a case.

My Grandad was a DI in the met, he told me never to talk to cops clear back in the 70's. He said that it's their job to find out the info, don't ever say a word