24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

[urban genie]

this is simply not true.

he lost possession 8 times, i believe only ake was better with 6.

he had 120 touches. pass accuracy 96% 100/104 passes. best passing accuracy in the whole team yesterday

you can dislike him and think of him what you want of course, but these are facts.

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At the end of the day you can throw stats, but the fact is he switched off at the end and cost us a goal.

No one denies his ability or potential, it his concentration and focus that he needs to improve on, a few times in games he has switched off.
I like him think he will come on great for us, but the goal was avoidable and quoting pass completions won't mask that fact.


He is a vast improvement than a shithouse like cancelo botttling a challenge or a headless chicken like zivchenko btw.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I thought he was very very good last night until their goal. He is an absolute beast and be at the heart of our defence for many seasons. That this is his first and he is still learning makes his performances even more impressive. Bloody hell, at times he is being asked to play left wing. Cut the lad some slack. By far our best acquisition this season imo.

 

[vanchi]

At the end of the day you can throw stats, but the fact is he switched off at the end and cost us a goal.

No one denies his ability or potential, it his concentration and focus that he needs to improve on, a few times in games he has switched off.
I like him think he will come on great for us, but the goal was avoidable and quoting pass completions won't mask that fact.


He is a vast improvement than a shithouse like cancelo botttling a challenge or a headless chicken like zivchenko btw.

i’m not throwing stats, i was replying to a statement, don’t patronize me.

where did i say he was great for that goal, please quote me.

 

[remember arthur mann]

I thought he was very very good last night until their goal. He is an absolute beast and be at the heart of our defence for many seasons. That this is his first and he is still learning makes his performances even more impressive. Bloody hell, at times he is being asked to play left wing. Cut the lad some slack. By far our best acquisition this season imo.

Excellent player under orders. Ake didn't cover himself in glory for the goal.

 

[vanchi]

Youth cateer started as a left back, was used as both a left bacck and centre back.
most of his liepzig time he was used as a left back, wide left CB in a back 3, Left wing back or a left sided CB.

He isn't a centre back out of position he is a 22 yer old lad in a new club who can play left back comfortably as he has done all his short career but still has to weed out his tendancy to switch off at times, something he will learn to do.

And too early imho to say he is top class just yet, not anywhere near as good as Stones or Ake, who both have the same atributes as him with possession and passing.


He cannot be judged on this season though like some are, on the whole has played well, just needs to up his concentration to the full 90 mins

lol dude this is a work of fiction, so many inaccuracies…

academy - played all positions except gk, and was good. moving through youth categories there was one coach that didn’t like him and g thought about quitting football, then another coach recognized he’s absolutely best at cb and he actually said at the time that if g doesn’t become an excellent cb he’ll quit coaching and everyone who coached him should end up in jail for failing at their jobs.

senior career - joined first team as a cb. sold to leipzig as a cb. loan to dinamo agreed until upamecano leaves, played second season as lb cause of dinamo’s plans.

total: 10 games more at lb than cb for dinamo zagreb.

2 seasons in germany - played 7 games out of 86 or 87 as lb, everything else as cb. lb games when he arrived from zagreb.
second season zero games as lb.

he was asked many times about the cb/lb thing, every single time the reply was “i am a natural cb, that is my position. i will play any position that my coach asks me to play and do my best”

an interview was filmed after return from abu dhabi and aired yesterday before the game in croatia. he still refers to himself as cb. his fave city game was when he played cb. if he had to ask one city player to be his mentor it would be ruben because “we play in the same position”.

if pep asks him to be a gk he will get those gloves and work hard, he will still be a cb though.

hope this helps

 

[Middedon]

The current criticism - that he absolutely can’t get any better - is an odd one to me. Especially since those same people are often excited about Dokus potential improvement or talk about how they can’t believe Ake has improved so much since he got here. I’m not trying to be disingenuous, just wondering what makes him different than most other players we have. But for people who are really concerned with him, I assume the end of next season will be more clear - and if he’s not the right fit he’ll still be 23 and I assume would fetch a decent price.

 

[Phil1]

He’s going to be an exceptional signing over time.
I’ve seen more than enough already to be convinced of it.
Some of our support really struggle with the concept of patience it seems.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Would love to see Gvardiol start and play a few full games as CB. He's an OK LB but that's not his best position.

 

[FatedBlue77]

Exceptional for me. Apart from the goal Burnley scored at the end I think he played really good. The way he’s seamlessly slotted in to the team and the maturity at which he plays at surprised me to be honest.

Probably not a popular opinion but he was my MoM yday.

 

[Goldust]

I think he’s class, he did get done for the goal and will improve of the back of it.