26 | Savinho - 2025/26

Blue2202 said:
My eyes do not lie to me, nothing you say will convince me he's at the level required to play for city and I've not seen enough from him to suggest he ever will be. He's ineffective on the ball, criminally lazy off it and not suited physically or mentally to play in the Premier League.

Does my head in when I see the 'Mahrez at 21' argument too because it's just clutching at straws. The two are incomparable - I bet you anything Savinho won't be anywhere near Mahrez at 26.

How on earth have you come to the conclusion of him being top 5-10 RW in the world? Because of a few assists (7 of his 10) against relegated or poor bottom-half sides last season? Sorry but that's a laughable statement.

All the new contract has done is given him comfort to not have to perform, it already looks as though he's less motivated/ interested after it.
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He was 4th in Ballon D'or young player voting. The attackers ahead of him were Guler and Yamal, who are obviously better. Doue and Barcola are and Estevao will be if he keeps it up.

That's right wingers in his age bracket. Assuming they mature at relatively similar rates they likely end up in the 10 best RWs at their peaks.

He was in the La Liga TOTY at 19 and our top assister at 20. He's out of form and getting booed by his own fans may not help him out of it. He may even leave. But if he shows anything like the Girona form for another team it'll be another Palmer, Soriano is not necessarily wrong.

He may not be great in your eyes but I'm more inclined to trust Pep, Viana, Txiki and Soriano.
 
In the last couple of matches (Leverkusen, Leeds) there has been a lot of hostility from fans around me towards Savinho. Savinho got a lot of stick from the lower tier of the East Stand against Leverkusen, and lost confidence in that game. He was an unused sub. vs Leeds but loads of fans around me kept joking shouting ironically bring Savinho on! They thought it was a funny. I can't criticise people for something that they didn't do but I feel that had Savinho come on he would have got a lot of stick and booing.

We have done this before as a fanbase. We were notorious for being very harsh on players in the 1990s. This weekend, Thomas Frank said the fans who booed Vicario after his mistake vs Fulham were not proper Tottenham fans. We haven't got to the point yet, but I feel its close. Partly it's Pep's fault for playing an inadequate side against Leverkusen that exposed the attacking players.

This post is probably futile because once fans have formed their opinion of the player, they aren't going to change their mind until the player's form changes, but I hope that those that don't rate Savinho will bite their tongue when he plays and don't allow fans around them to boo him. This hasn't happened en masse yet but I can feel its close.

Savinho is in my opinion a very good player who is playing way below his potential due to lack of confidence and City fans are making life difficult for him. Nunes got a lot of stick but came through it because Pep had faith in him at right back, and now he is popular (generally, not completely!). Please don't make life difficult for Savinho. Support him. Think about it when he next comes on as a sub. I can't imagine that Pep is going to start him in the League again until he has at least had some good sub. appearances. He might play against Brentford in the League Cup though.
 
The only way he will change the opinion of the fans is to start performing. Until then he won’t as he is very unlikeable and everything that fans generally don’t like in a footballer. He needs to concentrate on his game, stop gesturing to the crowd and stop going down like an absolute fanny at the slightest touch.
 
Honestly at this point, just play him as a sub when we are winning at RW only, LW is just a big waste of time.

We need to manage him as the backlash is getting vitriolic and he needs to be protected a bit.

Bobb is doing more than him, and should be the primary backup to Cherki.
 
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