4-3-3

Don't see the need to change to 4-3-3 at all. It's clear that 4-2-3-1 is a solid formation, and successful in Champions League. Look no further than the two German teams.

Dortmund:

Lewandowski
Reus Götze Kuba
Gundogan Bender
Schmelzer Hummels Subotic Piszcszek

Bayern:

Gomez
Ribery Müller/Kroos Robben
Scheinsteiger Martinez
Alaba Dante Boateng Lahm


The biggest difference is that they have pace on the wings, whereas we do not.
 
Kladze said:
Don't see the need to change to 4-3-3 at all. It's clear that 4-2-3-1 is a solid formation, and successful in Champions League. Look no further than the two German teams.

Dortmund:

Lewandowski
Reus Götze Kuba
Gundogan Bender
Schmelzer Hummels Subotic Piszcszek

Bayern:

Gomez
Ribery Müller/Kroos Robben
Scheinsteiger Martinez
Alaba Dante Boateng Lahm


The biggest difference is that they have pace on the wings, whereas we do not.

I agree that 4-2-3-1 is currently our best formation, but given that we are pretty clearly targeting Cavani, I just don't see where he and Aguero fit into that. Aguero is wasted as an attacking midfielder IMO, would rather see him in a wide forward role like David Villa at Barcelona.
 
Solihull Samba Boys said:
Kladze said:
Don't see the need to change to 4-3-3 at all. It's clear that 4-2-3-1 is a solid formation, and successful in Champions League. Look no further than the two German teams.

Dortmund:

Lewandowski
Reus Götze Kuba
Gundogan Bender
Schmelzer Hummels Subotic Piszcszek

Bayern:

Gomez
Ribery Müller/Kroos Robben
Scheinsteiger Martinez
Alaba Dante Boateng Lahm


The biggest difference is that they have pace on the wings, whereas we do not.

I agree that 4-2-3-1 is currently our best formation, but given that we are pretty clearly targeting Cavani, I just don't see where he and Aguero fit into that. Aguero is wasted as an attacking midfielder IMO, would rather see him in a wide forward role like David Villa at Barcelona.
Aguero could be utilized as a second striker, playing just behind the centre forward. I think he'd be wasted as a wide forward. He's a player who can score 30-40 goals in a season.
 
Kladze said:
I agree that 4-2-3-1 is currently our best formation, but given that we are pretty clearly targeting Cavani, I just don't see where he and Aguero fit into that. Aguero is wasted as an attacking midfielder IMO, would rather see him in a wide forward role like David Villa at Barcelona.
Aguero could be utilized as a second striker, playing just behind the centre forward. I think he'd be wasted as a wide forward. He's a player who can score 30-40 goals in a season.

That would leave us with 2 up front again which we can get away with in the Prem cos it's tactically pants but in Europe our midfield gets over-run.

Just one striker from now on please... 442 is dead IMO.
 
I remember 4-3-3 working brilliantly against Chelsea at home in Feb. Yaya, Rodwell, Garcia (he actually did well!) in midfield. Silva, Milner and Aguero as front 3.
 
The Man With The Stick said:
Kladze said:
I agree that 4-2-3-1 is currently our best formation, but given that we are pretty clearly targeting Cavani, I just don't see where he and Aguero fit into that. Aguero is wasted as an attacking midfielder IMO, would rather see him in a wide forward role like David Villa at Barcelona.
Aguero could be utilized as a second striker, playing just behind the centre forward. I think he'd be wasted as a wide forward. He's a player who can score 30-40 goals in a season.

That would leave us with 2 up front again which we can get away with in the Prem cos it's tactically pants but in Europe our midfield gets over-run.

Just one striker from now on please... 442 is dead IMO.

That's the issue. Any time we only have two central midfielders, one naturally being Yaya, our midfield is prone to being overrun.
 
I'm nervous that with our formation we'll be overrun on the wings next season. We rely on our full backs to provide width, and we're ok this season but I think next season the bar will be raised by Mourinho's return to Chelsea again. They are bringing in Schurrle to play wide with Hazard on the other side, Man Ud already hurt us on the flanks but we won't be able to make up for this by dominating them through the middle anymore as they are signing Strootman, Spurs already kill us when they play with width...

We need to adjust or drop way down.
 
NoahCity said:
I remember 4-3-3 working brilliantly against Chelsea at home in Feb. Yaya, Rodwell, Garcia (he actually did well!) in midfield. Silva, Milner and Aguero as front 3.

I thought Jimmy was in midfield and YaYa in a more advanced rôle against Chelsea.
 
Vienna_70 said:
NoahCity said:
I remember 4-3-3 working brilliantly against Chelsea at home in Feb. Yaya, Rodwell, Garcia (he actually did well!) in midfield. Silva, Milner and Aguero as front 3.

I thought Jimmy was in midfield and YaYa in a more advanced rôle against Chelsea.
oh yeh, might have been. But the thing is we completely dominated them.<br /><br />-- Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:57 am --<br /><br />
Master_Tactician said:
I'm nervous that with our formation we'll be overrun on the wings next season. We rely on our full backs to provide width, and we're ok this season but I think next season the bar will be raised by Mourinho's return to Chelsea again. They are bringing in Schurrle to play wide with Hazard on the other side, Man Ud already hurt us on the flanks but we won't be able to make up for this by dominating them through the middle anymore as they are signing Strootman, Spurs already kill us when they play with width...

We need to adjust or drop way down.
you think this is a prob with current 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3?
 

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