#47 | Phil Foden - 2020/21 Performances

[twosips]

A two year dip is a little long though don't you think?

To be fair, it's not quite two years. A year and a couple of months, but yeah, not great.

 

[ws01]

Yes. I don't buy the mind games argument, whatsoever. I don't know why he was benched but I suspect he was exhausted - he worked his socks off that year and it's hard to keep going to the well. I think that's a major reason why last season was such a problem for us: not just the physical injuries but also the mental fatigue of what we had needed to do in the previous two years.

I think, like Pep, I am willing Bernardo to rediscover his best form.

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Pep plays mind games with loads of players. Has done so throughout his entire managerial career and plenty of players have testified to it.

Just look at what he was doing with Kun and Dinho as soon as he arrived - two already well established players who were key to our success. Granted that rose to the challenge of it, but that doesn't mean all of them can. IMO it's unnecessary and part of his way of seemingly overthinking at times.

 

[oldius]

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Pep plays mind games with loads of players. Has done so throughout his entire managerial career and plenty of players have testified to it.

Just look at what he was doing with Kun and Dinho as soon as he arrived - two already well established players who were key to our success. Granted that rose to the challenge of it, but that doesn't mean all of them can. IMO it's unnecessary and part of his way of seemingly overthinking at times.

That's good management not mind games!

 

[bluealf]

Yes. I don't buy the mind games argument, whatsoever. I don't know why he was benched but I suspect he was exhausted - he worked his socks off that year and it's hard to keep going to the well. I think that's a major reason why last season was such a problem for us: not just the physical injuries but also the mental fatigue of what we had needed to do in the previous two years.

I think, like Pep, I am willing Bernardo to rediscover his best form.

Mental fatigue lol it is a game football come on now, hardly like going to war.

Besides all of that you say like Pep you hope he rediscovers his form, not gonna happen if you're in and out of the side.

Now in answer to your reply to the other guy, you sarcastically reply about playing 70 games.

No real need for it, the guy wasn't advocating playing every game and I suspect you know full well the context of his post.

But I'll give you the perfect example of a player that doesnt like being rotated... John Stones, he needs to be playing more often than not or his form disintegrates, even through injury he comes back and it is ages before he can look good again, current Stones is a huge asset the other Stones not so much.

The other example is Walker, without a good RB cover for the last two seasons he has looked jaded the last 2 months of the seasons as Danillo and then Cancelo were a huge drop off for the team.

 

[oldius]

Mental fatigue lol it is a game football come on now, hardly like going to war.

Besides all of that you say lime Pep you hope he rediscovers his form, not gonna happen if you're in and out of the side.

Now in answer to your reply to the other guy, you sarcastically reply about playing 70 games.

No real need for it, the guy wasn't advocating playing every game and I suspect you know full well the context of his post.

But I'll give you the perfect example of a player that doesnt like being rotated... John Stones, he needs to be playing more often than not or his form disintegrates, even through injury he comes back and it is ages before he can look good again, current Stones is a huge asset the other Stones not so much.

The other example is Walker, without a good RB cover for the last two seasons he has looked jaded the last 2 months of the seasons as Danillo and then Cancelo were a huge drop off for the team.

We differ in our opinions and that is cool.
It is a game of football at the highest level and all top athletes need recovery time, in addition to playing and training. I think that we had a fall back in our performance as it is natural that once you have climbed the highest peak, it is much harder to go again. We really had to go to the peak to win that title, winning our last 14 was an outstanding achievement.
I wasn't being sarcastic, at least not deliberately so. The point is that Pep wants to compete on all fronts and that means that we play a lot of games and play most of our best players. If the decision is not to compete in so many areas then we can afford to play younger players or players that we deem of slightly lesser quality. Stone's issues were not just physical, as you know, and Pep will know if he is in the right frame of mind, or not.

 

[mosssideblue]

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Pep plays mind games with loads of players. Has done so throughout his entire managerial career and plenty of players have testified to it.

Just look at what he was doing with Kun and Dinho as soon as he arrived - two already well established players who were key to our success. Granted that rose to the challenge of it, but that doesn't mean all of them can. IMO it's unnecessary and part of his way of seemingly overthinking at times.

If you mean wanting players to better themselves, that isn't mind games or, do you mean something else?

 

[EdersonsSmiley]

Just a reminder this is the Phil Foden thread.

I'm sure there is a Sane thread, you can all find it if you want to whine.

 

[BlueTG]

Mental fatigue lol it is a game football come on now, hardly like going to war.

Besides all of that you say lime Pep you hope he rediscovers his form, not gonna happen if you're in and out of the side.

Now in answer to your reply to the other guy, you sarcastically reply about playing 70 games.

No real need for it, the guy wasn't advocating playing every game and I suspect you know full well the context of his post.

But I'll give you the perfect example of a player that doesnt like being rotated... John Stones, he needs to be playing more often than not or his form disintegrates, even through injury he comes back and it is ages before he can look good again, current Stones is a huge asset the other Stones not so much.

The other example is Walker, without a good RB cover for the last two seasons he has looked jaded the last 2 months of the seasons as Danillo and then Cancelo were a huge drop off for the team.

Of course mental fatigue is prevalent at the top end of elite sports. You don’t have to go to war to suffer from it.

 

[bluealf]

Of course mental fatigue is prevalent at the top end of elite sports. You don’t have to go to war to suffer from it.

Yup it must be hard to keep motivating yourself to be the best, probably drops off the richer they get.

 

[BlueTG]

Yup it must be hard to keep motivating yourself to be the best, probably drops off the richer they get.

I mean, yes. That’s the only factor that plays into ones mental state in such a highly regarded, well-watched pressure sport such as football.