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47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23
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What has really gone on with Phil Foden, can someone summarise it for me so I don't have to read back multiple pages. Was there some talk of a bust-up which had some impact on the Cancelo thing? Is he on some final warning or something?
Foden I could see needing strong guidance - remember that time he got into trouble with Southgate in Iceland awhile back and if I recall he was in the company of a right a**sehole that night. Is he still friends with that United player, I wonder - has he got sidetracked by what he has gone through especially recently (last week).
Foden I could see needing strong guidance - remember that time he got into trouble with Southgate in Iceland awhile back and if I recall he was in the company of a right a**sehole that night. Is he still friends with that United player, I wonder - has he got sidetracked by what he has gone through especially recently (last week).
Rumour that Cancelo deliberately tackled him hard in training and that was the cause of his foot injury.What has really gone on with Phil Foden, can someone summarise it for me so I don't have to read back multiple pages. Was there some talk of a bust-up which had some impact on the Cancelo thing? Is he on some final warning or something?
Foden I could see needing strong guidance - remember that time he got into trouble with Southgate in Iceland awhile back and if I recall he was in the company of a right a**sehole that night. Is he still friends with that United player, I wonder - has he got sidetracked by what he has gone through especially recently (last week).
Rumour that both he and Ruben squared up to Cancelo after Cancelo fell out with/threw a ball at Pep.
Rumours about his private life in terms of partying/cheating on the mrs/having too many hangers-on that don't have his best interests at heart.
Rumour that Cancelo deliberately tackled him hard in training and that was the cause of his foot injury.
Rumour that both he and Ruben squared up to Cancelo after Cancelo fell out with/threw a ball at Pep.
Rumours about his private life in terms of partying/cheating on the mrs/having too many hangers-on that don't have his best interests at heart.
Thank you.
This is something I have written about in the past (in general - not specific to Phil). It must be so difficult with the money these amazing players get and at such an early age: difficult for them and the club too. I don't know how it works, but I assume top clubs must have a team of people whose job it is to help/support (and to some extent keep an eye on) these young players.
For example: I never understand how players (Tevez at City and numerous others at loads of clubs) get done for drink driving. Book a bloody Uber - even if it costs £50! Or just use 1 weeks salary to pay for a couple of chauffeurs (one on shift/one resting).
I'd even suggest this: at contract discussion time offer say £150k a week, but then explain if player x is willing to accept a 'minder' who drives them safe and keeps them out of trouble it will be £170k. This to ensure the club can safeguard their asset(s). At United and at our place footballers getting into trouble has caused all sorts of problems these last 18 months.
I just don't want Phil Foden to end up like G. Best or 'Gazza' Gascoigne - for the sake the team I love and also the country I support in World Cups and Euro Championships.
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Yeah, you take a kid in his early 20s, you give him several times more money on a weekly basis than the vast majority of people earn in a year, you give him fame and adoration and a revolving door of countless people wanting to give him what he wants...then just watch him and see how he copes.Thank you.
This is something I have written about in the past (in general - not specific to Phil). It must be so difficult with the money these amazing players get and at such an early age: difficult for them and the club too. I don't know how it works, but I assume top clubs must have a team of people whose job it is to help/support (and to some extent keep an eye on) these young players.
For example: I never understand how players (Tevez at City and numerous others at loads of clubs) get done for drink driving. Book a bloody Uber - even if it costs £50! Or just use 1 weeks salary to pay for a couple of chauffeurs (one on shift/one resting).
I'd even suggest this: at contract discussion time offer say £150k a week, but then explain if player x is willing to accept a 'minder' who drives them safe and keeps them out of trouble it will be £170k. This to ensure the club can safeguard their asset(s). At United and at our place footballers getting into trouble has caused all sorts of trouble these last 18 months.
I just don't want Phil Foden to end up like G. Best or 'Gazza' Gascoigne - for the sake the team I love and also the country I support in World Cups and Euro Championships.
Football clubs need to be better at supporting players with stuff like that, and do more in the academies to prepare them for the lifestyle they'll have if they manage to make it (as well as the work they do to try to prepare them for if they don't make it, which is a whole other kind of difficult).
It must be so hard to balance accepting that they're adults who want their freedom (and will be miserable and perform worse and want to leave if that freedom is curtailed) and understanding that they're valuable assets that need to be kept healthy and focused and stable.
I don't know what's going on with Phil but obviously there's been rumours about his personal life for years. We've got a strong captain group of older players who are now generally settled and professional. I'd like to see KDB or someone taking him under their wing.
Phil's a big talent but as things stand this is shaping up to be a difficult season for him. Needs to get back to basics - get his fitness and attitude right and earn his place in the team. Needs to block out all the external noise.
I agree.
I don't know the full facts (who does) but part of the problem - I would guess - is this: in the normal world, if a couple of lads 20ish went on a Benidorm holiday and copped off, but their girlfriends then found out about it (even g'friends with kids by them) then pretty soon after the holiday ended - so would the relationship. However, when its footballers (playing for England, in Iceland) things are a bit different.
The Mrs Merton line: "....so what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels" springs to mind* and I suppose the classic example of this is Wayne and Colleen Rooney. The club that employs them probably thinks it's good if a young player settles down with a wife or long-term girlfriend, but the fact is because of what I have just hinted at, these guys they can pretty much do what they want because their partners will put up with it for the sake of the multi-millionaire lifestyle that is par for the course. Now I'm not saying players should get £20 quid a week and ride the metro to the match sat next to the fans 1950s style, but somewhere in the last thirty years or so things have gone a bit crazy.
*Another good line from Peter Crouch: he was asked in an interview once what he would have been if he hadn't been a professional footballer - his answer: "a virgin"!
I don't know what's going on with Phil but obviously there's been rumours about his personal life for years. We've got a strong captain group of older players who are now generally settled and professional. I'd like to see KDB or someone taking him under their wing.
I don't know the full facts (who does) but part of the problem - I would guess - is this: in the normal world, if a couple of lads 20ish went on a Benidorm holiday and copped off, but their girlfriends then found out about it (even g'friends with kids by them) then pretty soon after the holiday ended - so would the relationship. However, when its footballers (playing for England, in Iceland) things are a bit different.
The Mrs Merton line: "....so what first attracted you to multi-millionaire Paul Daniels" springs to mind* and I suppose the classic example of this is Wayne and Colleen Rooney. The club that employs them probably thinks it's good if a young player settles down with a wife or long-term girlfriend, but the fact is because of what I have just hinted at, these guys they can pretty much do what they want because their partners will put up with it for the sake of the multi-millionaire lifestyle that is par for the course. Now I'm not saying players should get £20 quid a week and ride the metro to the match sat next to the fans 1950s style, but somewhere in the last thirty years or so things have gone a bit crazy.
*Another good line from Peter Crouch: he was asked in an interview once what he would have been if he hadn't been a professional footballer - his answer: "a virgin"!
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Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s told Pep to fuck off,he’s not a fucking winger Pep
Who said what?the mail hinting that Foden wasn't ill.
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