5 | John Stones - 2024/25

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uwerosler28 said:
So you 100%,believe Pep is given professional medical advise that some of his players should not play on medical grounds and he ignores that and says fuck it I will play them anyway? Not a fucking chance.
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Pep has openly admitted he's picking people who aren't 100% fit. No medical team is going to suggest anything other than not playing if they're not 100% so yes that'd precisely what I believe, because pep has said that's the case.

You seem to want to blow this up to be a scandalous thing to do, it's not all that uncommon, players play when not fully fit regularly, Laporte played through genuine injury in the title run in a few seasons back.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Yes , you stated pep is playing injured players because its happened before with Mancini, then tell a story where Mancini was unhappy that his Dr WOULDNT let him play injured players so fired him .
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I'll be gentle with you, as I'm not clear that English is your first language.

You claimed a manager wouldn't play an injured player. I told you that's incorrect and that a manger, Mancini, wanted to play players who the medical expert said weren't fit. And because the doctor stood up to him, Mancini had him sacked and got a doctor who wouldn't stand up to him.

So, in summary, managers often question whether a player is really injured and will play them either against medical advice or even when the player doesn't feel right. Pep is doing it with our players now, because he doesn't have a big squad (which is his own choice) and insists on players taking to the field before they're fully restored to full fitness. I can't put it any fucking simpler so please stop either pretending you don't understand, or pretending to be thick.
 
Not a one of you actually know who made the decision for John Stones to play yesterday so all your arguments account for nothing.
For all we know John could have told Pep, and the medical people that he was feeling all right and ready to play.
Does anyone think that a committed player like John Stones, who has been a stalwart for this club/team, is happy with this situation?
He is not blind or deaf, who knows if he or his friends/pr team are not reading these posts and other social media and ‘normal’ media?
He’s been a loyal and staunch player for this team and deserves respect and a little leeway.
Does any one of you think that he deliberately goes out and gets injured? No of course not, you’re not that daft, well I don’t think you are anyway. But then I have faith in people. :-)
So basically we know nothing and quite frankly we shouldn’t know his medical diagnosis unless he wants to release that information.
If it is this plantis fasciitis then he needs treatment but we don’t know.

Good luck John Boy I’m rooting for you as are a lot of others but some need to think again. JMHO


Personally I’m devastated for him and feel for him and his family.
 
Thanks John but your injury situation makes your future simply impossible.

When fit a great player but when was the last time your were fit?

Amazing that you seems to find fitness when pulling on a white shirt.
 
Great player and even if he was to play now until end of season we still need to get rid because we know he will have another long term injury again in near future
 
Eccles Blue said:
Not a one of you actually know who made the decision for John Stones to play yesterday so all your arguments account for nothing.
For all we know John could have told Pep, and the medical people that he was feeling all right and ready to play.
Does anyone think that a committed player like John Stones, who has been a stalwart for this club/team, is happy with this situation?
He is not blind or deaf, who knows if he or his friends/pr team are not reading these posts and other social media and ‘normal’ media?
He’s been a loyal and staunch player for this team and deserves respect and a little leeway.
Does any one of you think that he deliberately goes out and gets injured? No of course not, you’re not that daft, well I don’t think you are anyway. But then I have faith in people. :-)
So basically we know nothing and quite frankly we shouldn’t know his medical diagnosis unless he wants to release that information.
If it is this plantis fasciitis then he needs treatment but we don’t know.

Good luck John Boy I’m rooting for you as are a lot of others but some need to think again. JMHO


Personally I’m devastated for him and feel for him and his family.
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EB, you've got to let go of those strings;)
 
Eccles Blue said:
I’ve just got to stop getting wound up about what others think of the poor lad. I know he’s the best and it’s not his fault he’s injured. :-)
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Most supporters recognise what a superb player Stones is , when fully fit.

This current reported issue, as none of us really know, sounds as though rest is the recognised cure. If that is the case, he simply must be allowed to follow the medical advice.

No doubt he like all the other players, want to be out there helping in this difficult period, but playing on with the problem doesn't seem like it is going to help.

He is still a professional, and your favourite, so rightly you support him, as most of us do too.
 
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dave_blue12 said:
Just heard from a reliable source that both Stones and Akanji shouldn’t have been playing but there was no one else.
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Yes there was, they are from that supposed world class academy but they can't play because apparently their confidence will be wrecked if they make mistakes and they will never recover nor learn from them, so we'll keep playing injured players and then act surprised when they aggravate their injuries, I have a feeling Ake will play against Everton and I guarantee you he hasn't fully recovered from his injury.
 
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When he's fit, he's arguably the best centre back we've ever had. When he's fit.

We recognise he's been a special player, but we can't keep risking him.
Eccles Blue said:
I’ve just got to stop getting wound up about what others think of the poor lad. I know he’s the best and it’s not his fault he’s injured. :-)
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dave_blue12 said:
Just heard from a reliable source that both Stones and Akanji shouldn’t have been playing but there was no one else.
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So at what point do they stop playing them? They could do some serious damage if they aren’t careful, if we are going to lose a few matches then give them a rest, then try and pick the pieces up, maybe the plan is to get to 40 points and do that!
 
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