6 | Nathan Ake - 2024/25

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Mr Grumpy said:
Terrible from Pep, getting a seriously injured player to start games.
Dreadful squad management.

Be it down to his failing to size the squad properly, his failure to manage it's age profile, or his inability to use the youth and EDS.

2/10 Must try harder.
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You must be extremely naive if you don’t think we have a medical team advising on injuries.
You must be extremely naive if you don’t think players raise issues if they’re unfit or so injured that they can’t play.
You must be extremely naive if you’ve never heard of a hairline fracture that has been run on, played football on, played rugby on or indeed any sportsman / woman that has played with a niggle that has later needed an operation or complete rest.
@Mr Grumpy 0/10 must try harder
 
Didn't even realise this latest injury was serious

No wonder we're stocking up on new centrebacks
 
Strangerepublic said:
We should be proud of our squad. What is evident is that multiple players gave 200% this season, playing through injury and pain or coming back even when not fully recovered.
Shows you what mentality they had.
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I think players who have shown they’ll go through the pain barrier will be looked on a lot more favourably by the club - and Pep specifically - in the rebuild.

And I think the players know it.
 
AshtonBlueMooner said:
You must be extremely naive if you don’t think we have a medical team advising on injuries.
You must be extremely naive if you don’t think players raise issues if they’re unfit or so injured that they can’t play.
You must be extremely naive if you’ve never heard of a hairline fracture that has been run on, played football on, played rugby on or indeed any sportsman / woman that has played with a niggle that has later needed an operation or complete rest.
@Mr Grumpy 0/10 must try harder
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None of which is relevant to my comment whatsoever.

If the squad was bigger, he'd have not been played.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
None of which is relevant to my comment whatsoever.

If the squad was bigger, he'd have not been played.
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I suggest you go and reread the first sentence from your original response.
If you still don’t get it, I’m sorry but I can’t help you.
Others understood it perfectly well.
 
How the fuck has he played for three months with a broken foot! Fair play to him though. Assume six weeks in plaster as a minimum then another four weeks to get fit so we might see him for the last couple of games at best. More likely for the CWC
 
AshtonBlueMooner said:
I suggest you go and reread the first sentence from your original response.
If you still don’t get it, I’m sorry but I can’t help you.
Others understood it perfectly well.
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I can read perfectly well thank you.
Point stands regardless of your brickbats.

Ake only played because pep gave himself no other option.

It's hardly a shocking or controversial view. Pep has form for it.

Perhaps you are forgetting KDB's hamstring?
 
Guess the positive from this is that it’s a fixable injury that shouldn’t affect him once he’s recovered.

Incredible that he’s played for so long with a broken foot.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
I can read perfectly well thank you.
Point stands regardless of your brickbats.

Ake only played because pep gave himself no other option.

It's hardly a shocking or controversial view. Pep has form for it.

Perhaps you are forgetting KDB's hamstring?
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Enjoy your echo chamber.
You’re in there alone.
Not for the first time.
You’re either thick as two short planks or a wum.
Choosing a user name that makes you think you are some kind of Victor Meldrew caricature speaks volumes about you.
 
AshtonBlueMooner said:
Enjoy your echo chamber.
You’re in there alone.
Not for the first time.
You’re either thick as two short planks or a wum.
Choosing a user name that makes you think you are some kind of Victor Meldrew caricature speaks volumes about you.
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You are Mr Hill and I claim my £5.
 
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Chappie said:
The value of hindsight...
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Erm,
This is my point, isn't it?

Pep shouldn't be a victim of hindsight.
He has (as mentioned above) a team of industry elites behind him who should be telling reminding him that his CB squad depth is compromised. He should have listened and planned accordingly.
CB squad members for 24/25 at the beginning of the season were: (open to correction).

Dias,
Stones,
Ake
Akanji.

EDS additions include:
Pusey
Alleyne
Braithwaite.

Ake and stones are only ever 1 player between them. They are not reliable team members. It's not rocket science to see that you were at risk of both being out at the same time, leaving Akanji and Dias who are both nearly 30 left to do the heavy lifting on a potentially 70+ game season.

The EDS lads are pointless. Training cones. Pep just won't use them.
Our academy is so poor that Pep prefers to constantly reach for half fit or injured players rather than the EDS.

The two new additions (Khus and Rheis) have been forced on him and he's slow to use them as well.

This isn't controversial.

Pep has explicitly said that he fucked up with squad management in the summer. I'm just repeating his own criticism.

Unless you think having 2+ 2x0.5 players you are actually willing to field for two positions for a season of 70 games plus in elite football against the UK/European/worlds best players and teams across 6(?) competitions stretching for 10 months is somehow reasonable?

With a team of superfit supermen, our squad would be far too small for the position the club is in regarding national and international competition demands.
But we don't have supermen. We have Dad's army.

It's insane.

I'm happy to be proven wrong btw. Gaslighting in a rebuttal is not necessary.....
 
Chappie said:
How many centre half's, would you recommend we have in a 25 Man squad.
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Grouping them as defenders rather than specifically cb's, Most clubs typically have around 8-9 defenders in a 25 man squad.

Liverpool have 8, arsenal have 9, forest have 10, Chelsea have 10, Newcastle have 9, united have 10.

We started the season with 6. 7 if you're being generous and calling Lewis a defender. It's already a massive outlier and that's without considering 1 was a 34 year old and stones and ake both have fitness issues.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
Erm,
This is my point, isn't it?

Pep shouldn't be a victim of hindsight.
He has (as mentioned above) a team of industry elites behind him who should be telling reminding him that his CB squad depth is compromised. He should have listened and planned accordingly.
CB squad members for 24/25 at the beginning of the season were: (open to correction).

Dias,
Stones,
Ake
Akanji.

EDS additions include:
Pusey
Alleyne
Braithwaite.

Ake and stones are only ever 1 player between them. They are not reliable team members. It's not rocket science to see that you were at risk of both being out at the same time, leaving Akanji and Dias who are both nearly 30 left to do the heavy lifting on a potentially 70+ game season.

The EDS lads are pointless. Training cones. Pep just won't use them.
Our academy is so poor that Pep prefers to constantly reach for half fit or injured players rather than the EDS.

The two new additions (Khus and Rheis) have been forced on him and he's slow to use them as well.

This isn't controversial.

Pep has explicitly said that he fucked up with squad management in the summer. I'm just repeating his own criticism.

Unless you think having 2+ 2x0.5 players you are actually willing to field for two positions for a season of 70 games plus in elite football against the UK/European/worlds best players and teams across 6(?) competitions stretching for 10 months is somehow reasonable?

With a team of superfit supermen, our squad would be far too small for the position the club is in regarding national and international competition demands.
But we don't have supermen. We have Dad's army.

It's insane.

I'm happy to be proven wrong btw. Gaslighting in a rebuttal is not necessary.....
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You'd do better if you got your facts right. Ruben is 27 - approaching peak years for a centre back. Also you seem to have forgotten Gvardiol. And slow to use Khusanov? He's pretty much first choice now.
 
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