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7 | Joao Cancelo - 2022/23 Performances
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The issue is under Pep is that he makes players look good for a while in unfamiliar positions.
Kolarov at CB, Delph at LB, Zinchenko at LB, Cancelo at LB.
Eventually you get found out which isn’t surprising.
Stones at RB will be next.
Kolarov at CB, Delph at LB, Zinchenko at LB, Cancelo at LB.
Eventually you get found out which isn’t surprising.
Stones at RB will be next.
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Fucking cheat! We need to get rid and then run off to the nearest monastery to sign up an honest priest to play as a fullback, that way we'll find someone who wouldn't commit the abominable crime of trying to get 3 points for his team.
Agree totally. Both technically gifted wouldn’t trust either in big moments. Wouldn’t be bothered if either left.I’ve backed him all the way. Many have forgotten how pivotal he was in 20/21 when he and Gundo were the main catalysts in our excellent season. Him moving into the midfield that season was something completely out of the ordinary and a sight to behold. I will never forget what he delivered that year.
Unfortunately, he is nowhere near those levels now and is currently driving me round the fucking twist. I don’t know whether it’s the upcoming World Cup, the lack of competition for his place, or something else entirely, but he looks pedestrian out there. I will forgive the odd defensive mistake as nobody is perfect, but there is a continued lack of urgency to his game. It’s like his balls have been chopped off. I would currently liken him to a LB version of Mahrez…odd moments of genius but not anywhere enough to gloss over the meh.
KDB and probably Haaland aside, Cancelo is the only City player who would make a world best XI in 2022, far ahead of the other City defenders. And this is the same player many think should be benched for not being good enough in principle. Cluelessness doesn't begin to describe the attitude many show toward Cancelo. Cluelessness and irrational hatred. Guy is always available, plays at RB, plays at LB, helps in all phases of the game, gives his all. Not good enough!
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Says more about the lack of decent left backs than how good an actual defender he is. Taking the blue tinted specs off Robertson is a miles better defender than him and would actually add more in attack for our team because without a winger capable of beating his man on the outside( God knows what’s happened to the burst of pace Foden had developed due to that sprint coach) he’d provide width and help Grealish miles more than Cancelo does.KDB and probably Haaland aside, Cancelo is the only City player who would make a world best XI in 2022, far ahead of the other City defenders. And this is the same player many think should be benched for not being good enough. Cluelessness doesn't begin to describe the attitude many show toward Cancelo. Cluelessness and irrational hatred. Cheat fans.
Says more about the lack of decent left backs than how good an actual defender he is. Taking the blue tinted specs off Robertson is a miles better defender than him and would actually add more in attack for our team because without a winger capable of beating his man on the outside( God knows what’s happened to the burst of pace Foden had developed due to that sprint coach) he’d provide width and help Grealish miles more than Cancelo does.
If we had him pep wouldn’t have him overlapping he’d have him inside
Says more about the lack of decent left backs than how good an actual defender he is. Taking the blue tinted specs off Robertson is a miles better defender than him and would actually add more in attack for our team because without a winger capable of beating his man on the outside( God knows what’s happened to the burst of pace Foden had developed due to that sprint coach) he’d provide width and help Grealish miles more than Cancelo does.
Could you tell us the defensive stats which show that Robertson was/is miles better? I cited stats in the Cucurella thread which showed that Cancelo was head and shoulders above Robertson in 21/22 at purely defensive stats: duels, interceptions, tackles, aerial balls won, etc. The underrating of his defensive contributions on here has been criminal, mostly because they happen in the middle third and are not treated as (sufficiently or properly) defensive according to the old school textbooks.
Just by watching them play. If we go purely off stats you‘d say Grealish is Shit when he clearly isn’t. I’m not having a go at Cancelo he’s done a great job overall and at times is amazing and a joy to watch. However, when he’s bad he can be abysmal. Only having 2 top class fullbacks at the club is the issue. It’s not Cancelo’s fault but it’s pretty ridiculous to be honest.Could you tell us the defensive stats which show that Robertson was/is miles better? I cited stats in the Cucurella thread which showed that Cancelo was head and shoulders above Robertson in 21/22 at purely defensive stats: duels, interceptions, tackles, aerial balls won, etc. The underrating of his defensive contributions on here has been criminal, mostly because they happen in the middle third and are not treated as (sufficiently or properly) defensive according to the old school textbooks.
Sadly he is very inconsistent, either world class or dreadful, and he has a weird attitude at times not befitting his ability.KDB and probably Haaland aside, Cancelo is the only City player who would make a world best XI in 2022, far ahead of the other City defenders. And this is the same player many think should be benched for not being good enough in principle. Cluelessness doesn't begin to describe the attitude many show toward Cancelo. Cluelessness and irrational hatred. Guy is always available, plays at RB, plays at LB, helps in all phases of the game, gives his all. Not good enough!
That dive yesterday was appalling and I hope he was given a huge bollicking from the dressing room.
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That dive yesterday was appalling and I hope he was given a huge bollicking from the dressing room.
I doubt it, given that it was no worse than Kev's yesterday or the one against Fulham. Only difference there is the defender had enough sense to pull his foot away at the last second.
Well I hope Pep tells them to cut it out, part of the game I hate with a passion.I doubt it, given that it was no worse than Kev's yesterday or the one against Fulham. Only difference there is the defender had enough sense to pull his foot away at the last second.
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Well I hope Pep tells them to cut it out, part of the game I hate with a passion.
Same but it's not going anywhere anytime soon, even with VAR. At least João had the decency to apologise instantly.
He had to apologise, it made him look a utter cnut.Same but it's not going anywhere anytime soon, even with VAR. At least João had the decency to apologise instantly.
They were ALL absent yesterday - not throwing individuals under the bus - Pep's 'total football’ plan has a massive weak spot in it - and Thomas Frank and his front boys (among others have him sussed)
and lets be honest here, this disgrace of a world cup has fucked up everything, not that gravy media will call it out.
and lets be honest here, this disgrace of a world cup has fucked up everything, not that gravy media will call it out.
Just by watching them play. If we go purely off stats you‘d say Grealish is Shit when he clearly isn’t. I’m not having a go at Cancelo he’s done a great job overall and at times is amazing and a joy to watch. However, when he’s bad he can be abysmal. Only having 2 top class fullbacks at the club is the issue. It’s not Cancelo’s fault but it’s pretty ridiculous to be honest.
I'm not a stats fanatic by any means. But sometimes stats can correct misperceptions. I was surprised to see how much better Cancelo did compared to Robertson (who was arguably the best LB in the world before 21/22). Maybe Robertson wasn't at his best in 2022, but Cancelo did generally better than him and was recognised as such by the PL players.
People are free to have their opinions, though. Otherwise, football (forums) would be largely pointless. Nobody knows the whole truth. I was sceptical about Cancelo in 19/20, but have updated my opinions since then. The tragic story of his mother has warmed me to him big time.
Sadly he is very inconsistent, either world class or dreadful, and he has a weird attitude at times not befitting his ability.
That dive yesterday was appalling and I hope he was given a huge bollicking from the dressing room.
He's been consistent for 15 months mate, from August 21 to November 22 he was really good in most games. Nobody is absolutely consistent, even Bernie and Rodri, let alone KDB. Any player has poor games, including Walker who has been a defensive beast most of the time. He's had his shocking blunders, too.
He hasn't , his form drops off the cliff during the later stages of the season, probably down to fatigue and the amount he is asked to play.He's been consistent for 15 months mate, from August 21 to November 22 he was really good in most games. Nobody is absolutely consistent, even Bernie and Rodri, let alone KDB. Any player has poor games, including Walker who has been a defensive beast most of the time. He's had his shocking blunders, too.
This season at times superb and at others poor with the weird , stroppy attitude that rears up every now and again.
We need to sort a class LB once and for all and have Cancelo and Walker challenging each other for RB.
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