7 reasons why I like Everton

Prestwich_Blue said:
In response to the "7 reasons I hate Everton" thread. I actually like them as a club and here's why.

1) They play in blue.
2) Their ground reminds us what football stadiums used to be like, built in the middle of terraced streets instead of out-of-town retail parks.
3) They live in the shadow of red-clad neighbours who think they have a divine right to win everything and think they are better supporters because they have won things.
4) Apart from City, I have more Everton supporting mates than any other club
5) They don't attract glory-hunters.
6) I love it when they play Z-Cars as it really raises the tension and expectation far more than some of the souless stuff they do at other grounds.
7) A lot of great connections - Joe Mercer, Joe Royle, Alan Ball, Paul Power, Andy Hinchcliffe, Brian Kidd, Richard Dunne, etc.

8)All for one
9)One for all
10)Everton's the team that plays beautiful football

The reality is ourselves and Everton have for a long time linked. Many many common connections. Very similar to ourselves. Good honest club.

Although we've wavered of late with these arabs
 
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated..when lescott signed his new deal and new wages he was probably over the moon so him and the club set up a law abiding contract which both parties agreed to..so why should he have the right to say fk you lot I've been offered more money..Moyes had every right to do what he did and football would be better if a lot more managers had principles to stand up for..
 
i have skip at the end of my drive and its painted blue. it reminds me of goodison park.

7 reasons why you like my skip...
 
scouse toffee said:
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated..when lescott signed his new deal and new wages he was probably over the moon so him and the club set up a law abiding contract which both parties agreed to..so why should he have the right to say fk you lot I've been offered more money..Moyes had every right to do what he did and football would be better if a lot more managers had principles to stand up for..

All fair points or would be had the confidential bids not been made public on evertons own web site, Moyes has since conducted a campaign based on innuendo. If he had a genuine gripe he should have made it official. Put up or shut up.
As for principles don't forget Moyes walked out on Preston to go to Everton and its not long since Everton poached players from Leeds.

Glass houses and stones, come to mind.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
In response to the "7 reasons I hate Everton" thread. I actually like them as a club and here's why.

1) They play in blue.
2) Their ground reminds us what football stadiums used to be like, built in the middle of terraced streets instead of out-of-town retail parks.
3) They live in the shadow of red-clad neighbours who think they have a divine right to win everything and think they are better supporters because they have won things.
4) Apart from City, I have more Everton supporting mates than any other club
5) They don't attract glory-hunters.
6) I love it when they play Z-Cars as it really raises the tension and expectation far more than some of the souless stuff they do at other grounds.
7) A lot of great connections - Joe Mercer, Joe Royle, Alan Ball, Paul Power, Andy Hinchcliffe, Brian Kidd, Richard Dunne, etc.

I'll have what your on
 
scouse toffee said:
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated....

what was Moyles's contract situation at Preston when he joined Everton?
 
blueyorkie said:
scouse toffee said:
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated..when lescott signed his new deal and new wages he was probably over the moon so him and the club set up a law abiding contract which both parties agreed to..so why should he have the right to say fk you lot I've been offered more money..Moyes had every right to do what he did and football would be better if a lot more managers had principles to stand up for..

All fair points or would be had the confidential bids not been made public on evertons own web site, Moyes has since conducted a campaign based on innuendo. If he had a genuine gripe he should have made it official. Put up or shut up.
As for principles don't forget Moyes walked out on Preston to go to Everton and its not long since Everton poached players from Leeds.
Glass houses and stones, come to mind.

Was going to post something similar but you got there before me blueyorkie lol.

The bloke's a blatant hypocrite. Not only did he not honour his contract at Preston, but if the Rags come knocking when Baconface retires will he do the "principled" thing and honour his Everton contract? Somehow I doubt it.

That aside, it's all well and good saying Lescott should've stayed at Everton and honoured his contract but there is a flipside - what if no bid was ever made, Lescott carried on happily plying his trade, but then fell out of favour due to a dip in form? Moyes would've been more than happy to get shut, as do most managers when players stop performing to a certain standard. Since Bosman, the players have held most of the cards but contracts work both ways and there are more than enough instances of clubs abusing a player's contract and fucking them off out of a club when that player's value to a club diminishes.
 
The man deployed some questionable tactics to get the highest possible fee for a player he didn't originally want to sell, it worked, if you were in our financial situation and Mancini did the same, you would all be applauding him.
 
Gwladiator said:
The man deployed some questionable tactics to get the highest possible fee for a player he didn't originally want to sell, it worked, if you were in our financial situation and Mancini did the same, you would all be applauding him.

That's actually bang on the money mate. Fair play.

He negotiated very hard, that's all he did. The "questionable" part was him publically decrying City's "lack of class" or whatever he said. On more than one occasion.

That's why he's not popular amongst City fans. He shouldn't have done that.
 
scouse toffee said:
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated..when lescott signed his new deal and new wages he was probably over the moon so him and the club set up a law abiding contract which both parties agreed to..so why should he have the right to say fk you lot I've been offered more money..Moyes had every right to do what he did and football would be better if a lot more managers had principles to stand up for..


Did Mr Moyse honour his contract at Preston? and how many Players have Everton purchased over the years who have been under contract at other Clubs?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Gwladiator said:
The man deployed some questionable tactics to get the highest possible fee for a player he didn't originally want to sell, it worked, if you were in our financial situation and Mancini did the same, you would all be applauding him.

That's actually bang on the money mate. Fair play.

He negotiated very hard, that's all he did. The "questionable" part was him publically decrying City's "lack of class" or whatever he said. On more than one occasion.

That's why he's not popular amongst City fans. He shouldn't have done that.

I can fully understand that, just some people go a little over the top.
 
Gwladiator said:
Didsbury Dave said:
That's actually bang on the money mate. Fair play.

He negotiated very hard, that's all he did. The "questionable" part was him publically decrying City's "lack of class" or whatever he said. On more than one occasion.

That's why he's not popular amongst City fans. He shouldn't have done that.

I can fully understand that, just some people go a little over the top.

Of course they do, it's a football forum!

As I said, your little synopsis is exactly as I read it.
 
Sheikh Rattle n Roll said:
scouse toffee said:
How can you all hate a manager who tried to stick up for what he believed in..and that was that a contract should be obligated..when lescott signed his new deal and new wages he was probably over the moon so him and the club set up a law abiding contract which both parties agreed to..so why should he have the right to say fk you lot I've been offered more money..Moyes had every right to do what he did and football would be better if a lot more managers had principles to stand up for..


Did Mr Moyse honour his contract at Preston? and how many Players have Everton purchased over the years who have been under contract at other Clubs?

not many from immediate competitors
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Gwladiator said:
The man deployed some questionable tactics to get the highest possible fee for a player he didn't originally want to sell, it worked, if you were in our financial situation and Mancini did the same, you would all be applauding him.

That's actually bang on the money mate. Fair play.

He negotiated very hard, that's all he did. The "questionable" part was him publically decrying City's "lack of class" or whatever he said. On more than one occasion.

That's why he's not popular amongst City fans. He shouldn't have done that.

Exactly. When all this was happening last summer I never wavered from saying that I don't blame Everton and Moyes for holding out for the highest possible price.

However, there was a big no need for his comments in the press at the time about our so-called lack of class (and then laughably saying Chelsea go about their business better). To then follow that up months later with his comments in the programme notes prior to their fixture with us in January simply smacked of a very bitter man. I'd love to know what "rules" we broke when signing Lescott, and why hasn't he made an official complaint?
 
sld said:
Sheikh Rattle n Roll said:
Did Mr Moyse honour his contract at Preston? and how many Players have Everton purchased over the years who have been under contract at other Clubs?

not many from immediate competitors

What has immediate competitors got to do with it?..... you are banging on about breaking law abiding contracts that both parties agreed to.... were Andrew Johnson and Joleon Lescott under contract at their previous Clubs?
 
Sheikh Rattle n Roll said:
sld said:
not many from immediate competitors

What has immediate competitors got to do with it?..... you are banging on about breaking law abiding contracts that both parties agreed to.... were Andrew Johnson and Joleon Lescott under contract at their previous Clubs?

Excuse me

I'm not banging on about anything. In fact that was my first input.

For the record, Moyes, Lescott and Hughes all behaved like bellends last summer.
 
sld said:
Sheikh Rattle n Roll said:
Did Mr Moyse honour his contract at Preston? and how many Players have Everton purchased over the years who have been under contract at other Clubs?

not many from immediate competitors

Oh right - I didn't realise that clubs were only allowed to sign players from teams that either a) Are far inferior, or b) Are far better.

Aston Villa are a direct competitor of ours, but I don't seem to recall their manager complaining about our club when we signed Gareth Barry from them. That signing was completed with a minimum of fuss, and while it understandably left a sour taste in the mouths of some Villa fans, most of them haven't stooped to the levels of bitterness and hatred that Everton fans have. I'll exclude Gwladiator from that of course - he seems a decent enough bloke.
 

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