#8 | Ilkay Gündoğan - 2020/21 Performances

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Shortsighted yes,and a thread that looks awful now......but appropriate to his form and contribution at the time.

Gundogan was woefully unfit and looked like he had lost the magic of his Dortmund days,he was a liabilty in many of our games,and yet Pep kept choosing him.

The player we have the pleasure of watching now is genuinely world class,and there isnt enough praise you can throw his way for dragging himself back up to that level,but lets not pretend that was always the case.

As for last night,another incredibly composed and controlled display,a midfield masterclass,his performances very rarely drop below an 8/10 now.

Total and utter tosh (as usual)
His form was never that bad. Pep always picked him. You know better than him? Eat humble pie. You were wrong at the time. He was playing the role chosen for him. Agree with him showing his full potential now though. Never doubted it...
 
Total and utter tosh (as usual)
His form was never that bad. Pep always picked him. You know better than him? Eat humble pie. You were wrong at the time. He was playing the role chosen for him. Agree with him showing his full potential now though. Never doubted it...
I agree.Even during those days when let's say he divided opinion, for me he was excellent as the holding player in the team. He kept the team moving and linked well with the players that were there to create and occasionally chipped in with a goal or an assist. He played every game in the run to the title in 2019 and contributed superbly as he did many times either side of this. A great player !
 
Total and utter tosh (as usual)
His form was never that bad. Pep always picked him. You know better than him? Eat humble pie. You were wrong at the time. He was playing the role chosen for him. Agree with him showing his full potential now though. Never doubted it...
Thanks for your input

Not tosh,he wasnt allowed the opportunity to play and find consistency as KDB and Gundogan were usually chosen ahead of him and he was rotated in and out of the side.
I was screaming for his inclusion on most match days,so i have no idea wtf you are harping on about?
 
Anyone remember that thread "The Gundogan Blindspot" ?

Haha.
The problem with football supporters is the tendency to make harsh judgements in the heat and now without looking at the bigger picture. I suppose we are all guilty to some extent.
Gundogan wasn’t performing at this level he’s at now for a while and the team at times struggled with him. That didn’t make him a poor player, just meant the standards we expect from him and others weren’t being reached.
Thankfully, the player most of us knew was in there has come to the fore and if he doesn’t come in the top three in the player of the year vote it’ll be a travesty.
Made up for him. Seems like a genuinely great bloke as well as a sublime footballer.
 
The problem with football supporters is the tendency to make harsh judgements in the heat and now without looking at the bigger picture.

Absolutely. But honestly, let's be real for a second. There's harsh, and then there's stuff like "he can't shoot, can't pass, can't dribble, and can't tackle". This squad is made up of some of the best footballers in the world and I just can't stomach seeing so much nonsense said about them.

So if you say the nonsense like that, then you should be reminded of it too. Believe me the shit stuff I say about football, people remind me about daily!
 
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