8 | Mateo Kovacic - 2023/24

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Do you see how many italians we have in the squad? Camaraderie is important in a football club. Penalties mean nothing to me, it happens, you'll see i'm fairly consistent with my opinion on him.
what do italians have to do with this? i honestly don’t get it. italian players are notorious for not adjusting well in other countries, and who can blame them honestly, best food and coffee in the world. :D

joško is extremely competitive and ambitious, wanted to play in england, pep and city are the best. kova makes it more easy and nice sure but i believe joško would choose city without him anyway. or maybe i’m underestimating joško’s importance to the club? eh, what do i know…
 
what do italians have to do with this? i honestly don’t get it. italian players are notorious for not adjusting well in other countries, and who can blame them honestly, best food and coffee in the world. :D

joško is extremely competitive and ambitious, wanted to play in england, pep and city are the best. kova makes it more easy and nice sure but i believe joško would choose city without him anyway. or maybe i’m underestimating joško’s importance to the club? eh, what do i know…
Me neither - but if we both don't know...i could be right?
 
I'm not calling him out for his penalty miss.
That can happen to anyone.
I'm calling him out for not being good enough to play in our midfield and being directly responsible for multiple instances of dropped points while also contributing very little to us gaining points.
Why isn't he good enough in your view? What are his deficiencies that make him not good enough? I'm not pretending he hasn't made a mistake leading to a goal, he probably has. As has basically everyone. But nothing springs to mind and certainly not multiple instances so perhaps you could offer some examples?
He contributes plenty when he plays.
 
Me neither - but if we both don't know...i could be right?
of course you could be right, we don’t know the actual facts so it’s anyone’s guess.

if your theory is true, pep giving actual minutes to the person bought to be a welcome to england buddy is insanity.
 
of course you could be right, we don’t know the actual facts so it’s anyone’s guess.

if your theory is true, pep giving actual minutes to the person bought to be a welcome to england buddy is insanity.
He's a footballer. He's not a bad one. Hes 100% not a good one. Rodri is not super human...it was either him, nunes or phillips. Fuck me vanchi, i'd play you ahead of the other 2.
 
Why isn't he good enough in your view? What are his deficiencies that make him not good enough? I'm not pretending he hasn't made a mistake leading to a goal, he probably has. As has basically everyone. But nothing springs to mind and certainly not multiple instances so perhaps you could offer some examples?
He contributes plenty when he plays.
When I look at a midfield player I ask myself 3 main questions to start with.

1. How are they contributing to the creation of goals?
2. How are they contributing to protecting our team from conceding goals and
3.
How are they contributing in terms of "linking play", dictating the tempo of the match and allowing the players around them to flourish.

In my observation he contributes very little to the first. He also has glaring deficiencies in the 2nd.

Now the 3rd is billed as his supposed strength but based on what I've seen he isn't really elite in this area either. In fact I've seen scant evidence that our team controls the pitch or the ball more when he plays.

Of course this is all very basic in terms of analysis, but this is a message board, it doesn't exactly lend itself to depth.

To be good enough to play in our midfield, you either needs to be extremely good in 2 of these areas or if you only reqlly bring 1 to the table, you need to be world class at it.

Kovacic doesn't fit the bill and based on how sparingly he has been used by Pep across the season (just 1200 mins in the league and 500 in CL) despite the hole that losing Gundogan has left in that sort of role, Pep obviously agrees that he isn't at the required level and he only uses him when he is desperate or deep in rotation.
 
When I look at a midfield player I ask myself 3 main questions to start with.

1. How are they contributing to the creation of goals?
2. How are they contributing to protecting our team from conceding goals and
3.
How are they contributing in terms of "linking play", dictating the tempo of the match and allowing the players around them to flourish.

In my observation he contributes very little to the first. He also has glaring deficiencies in the 2nd.

Now the 3rd is billed as his supposed strength but based on what I've seen he isn't really elite in this area either. In fact I've seen scant evidence that our team controls the pitch or the ball more when he plays.

Of course this is all very basic in terms of analysis, but this is a message board, it doesn't exactly lend itself to depth.

To be good enough to play in our midfield, you either needs to be extremely good in 2 of these areas or if you only reqlly bring 1 to the table, you need to be world class at it.

Kovacic doesn't fit the bill and based on how sparingly he has been used by Pep across the season (just 1200 mins in the league and 500 in CL) despite the hole that losing Gundogan has left in that sort of role, Pep obviously agrees that he isn't at the required level and he only uses him when he is desperate or deep in rotation.

You're right he isn't a player that does the first two things. He's never been that and never will be, we knew that when we bought him, but still bought him anyway, why? Because he absolutely does do the third. That's his entire game.

If you're not seeing it when he's on the pitch, I don't really have anything to tell you that doesn't sound condescending, you're just not looking very hard because it's on display, he's elite at it.

You don't have a career at the teams he's had without being elite at something. Him not being a guaranteed starter really doesn't hold much weight when it's his first season.

He started the season in the side and playing well, got injured, came back and struggled to get back in, peps trying to fit one extra man than we've got space for in attack most weeks and kovacic is often the sacrifice being the man yet to establish himself as a mainstay and the easy choice to bench. you're attributing way too much value to how much he's played in his first season.
 
I guarantee he does. It’s his profession, his professional pride, and he’ll feel like he let his teammates down…and against a team he used to play for.
No chance. This is our club. One of our only constants in life that we’ve followed since day dot.

Our passion takes precedence of professionalism. It’s a job to him. One he’s paid well for. For us it’s our life, part of our identity.

No way he feels worse than us. Plus, as a top level professional sportsman, he’ll already be into the next game.
 
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