82 | Rico Lewis - 2024/25

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simon23 said:
Hopefully you will.
I will gladly be proved wrong but at the moment he is part of the bigger problem...its not down to effort on his part that much is obvious. But he aint a ball carrying midfielder, he aint strong enough to be the number 6 (press resistent he is o but physically going into challenges he is weak - there is no hiding from this). once the play is past him he cannt get back...I watched him struggle week in week out in this element.
he is great in small spaces but one out of them he isnt creative at present, has limited goal threat (he gets in positions Ill give him that) but often he also gets in the way.
one big problem is he is too easily turned midfield.....He needs to learn the dark arts thats for sure - ths is where we are seeing oppostiion players get a free run at our centre havles...

positionally he is obviously doing what he is told but often he seems way off defensively and gives the wide forward way to much space.

As a fullback he is too slow when players go outside him....he also doesnt close down quick enough (though that seems to be a problem right the way through the team at present as Gvardiol is also very guilty of this along with others).

his passing is good and movement off the ball into space is decent (bit slow at times but thats the whole team again at present and I dont think that is necessarily down to him).

His awareness on crosses aint great..the goal vs Everton is one example..he should be expecting that to come to him, I know Akanji also misses it but he should be ready and he is nowhere near the guy that puts it in eventually. (Kyle walker is historcally bad at this for both us and England).
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I'd love to see you sit down with Pep and explain all this to him. I'm sure he'd be very grateful for your insight - once he'd stopped laughing that is.
 
tornandfrayed said:
I'd love to see you sit down with Pep and explain all this to him. I'm sure he'd be very grateful for your insight - once he'd stopped laughing that is.
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It's an Internet forum fella. If it was necessary that contributors had Uefa pro licences in order to contribute or had the ear of Pep it would be a pretty empty space.
 
Scottish Cityzen said:
I thought he was more than decent yesterday, he still has a lot to learn and don’t think he’s a natural defender.

Like a few others have said I think his ideal role at the moment is as a squad utility man, can cover multiple positions. Put him in a strong and confident team and he will fit like a glove.

Put him in a team that’s struggling and lacking physicality, and he will likely struggle too.

Give him another year or two of physical development and he will maybe push himself up the pecking order.
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What you're saying — and I'm afraid I am, with great reluctance, coming round to it — is that he won't be a starter in any normally functioning City team, i.e. the team that was one of the best club sides in the world until very recently and certainly the best club side in Europe only one and a half seasons back. He'll be a good squad player to be brought into a team that is already confident and flowing, where everyone knows his position and what he's supposed to be doing in it, i.e. painfully, not the case at present.
I saw him as holding down a starting spot, but now I'm not sure at all.
Whether that will be enough to satisfy his ambitions remains to be seen. I'm certain that he could hold down a starting spot in all of the lower half and middling teams in the Premier League. It wouldn't surprise me a lot if he asked to leave.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
It's an Internet forum fella. If it was necessary that contributors had Uefa pro licences in order to contribute or had the ear of Pep it would be a pretty empty space.
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It's the constant negativity and arrogance that gets me. Just because it's an internet forum it doesn't mean you have to chat shit all the time.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
What you're saying — and I'm afraid I am, with great reluctance, coming round to it — is that he won't be a starter in any normally functioning City team, i.e. the team that was one of the best club sides in the world until very recently and certainly the best club side in Europe only one and a half seasons back. He'll be a good squad player to be brought into a team that is already confident and flowing, where everyone knows his position and what he's supposed to be doing in it, i.e. painfully, not the case at present.
I saw him as holding down a starting spot, but now I'm not sure at all.
Whether that will be enough to satisfy his ambitions remains to be seen. I'm certain that he could hold down a starting spot in all of the lower half and middling teams in the Premier League. It wouldn't surprise me a lot if he asked to leave.
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"On 20 May 2023, Manchester City won the 2022–23 Premier League title, with Lewis playing 14 matches, starting 10. His team also won the FA Cup, with him playing all games but the final. On 22 December, Lewis started in central midfield in the 2023 FIFA Club World Cup final, playing 60 minutes as City beat Fluminense 4–0 in Jeddah to become world champions for the first time."

All this at the age of 20 and you people are writing him off - I really do despair at times.
 
tornandfrayed said:
It's the constant negativity and arrogance that gets me. Just because it's an internet forum it doesn't mean you have to chat shit all the time.
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It would be a bit dull if we people never talked bollocks. Maybe they don't know they are talking bollocks. Hypothetically, I'm not making a judgement on individual posts or posters.

Why not point out what is wrong rather than make glib and arrogant remarks? Or just ignore it if it would take up too much of your time.
 
southamptonblue said:
Not sure who you think may contribute to the same level as Rodri? We have far bigger problems than Lewis, wherever he plays....buying two wingers, who make Sterling at his worst, look like prime Messi is one of them. Having a midfield with as much pace as me is another.
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Do you think Savinho and Doku are worse than Lewis? That's a mad take. They are miles ahead despite being close in age, and still nowhere near finished articles. Their raw ability is undeniable.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
It would be a bit dull if we people never talked bollocks. Maybe they don't know they are talking bollocks. Hypothetically, I'm not making a judgement on individual posts or posters.

Why not point out what is wrong rather than make glib and arrogant remarks? Or just ignore it if it would take up too much of your time.
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Oh I'm off now. I was just scrolling through and read some truly terrible takes and couldn't help myself. I'm certainly not getting into a detailed debate with them - one thing I've learnt over the years is that football isn't as simple as some people would like to think it is. That's why some very experienced and knowledgeable football professionals struggle as managers - pro licence or not.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
What you're saying — and I'm afraid I am, with great reluctance, coming round to it — is that he won't be a starter in any normally functioning City team, i.e. the team that was one of the best club sides in the world until very recently and certainly the best club side in Europe only one and a half seasons back. He'll be a good squad player to be brought into a team that is already confident and flowing, where everyone knows his position and what he's supposed to be doing in it, i.e. painfully, not the case at present.
I saw him as holding down a starting spot, but now I'm not sure at all.
Whether that will be enough to satisfy his ambitions remains to be seen. I'm certain that he could hold down a starting spot in all of the lower half and middling teams in the Premier League. It wouldn't surprise me a lot if he asked to leave.
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Yeah pretty much mate. A bit like a few of our players this season.

If we had a lower level of injuries and out of form players any one or two of Rico / Walker / Gundogan / Nunes wouldn’t cause a dip in our performance level.

A major issue is that we’ve sometimes had all of them in the team at once and it has caused a big tail off in performance levels.

All that said Rico is young enough to find another level, it’s easy to forget (myself included) just how good a level he has reached just to be part of the team / squad. He’s not got a good level of pace for the elite levels we are at but if he ups his stamina and strength in the next season or two he could perhaps evolve his game that way.
 
He needs to improve but at 20 it doesn't mean that he cannot so he deserves more time to develop within the 1st team structure but not to be an integral part
 
Ric said:
That’s subjective, but it seems unnecessarily vindictive. We need to cut this stuff out. Constructive criticism is fine, obviously, but hyperbolic shite like this crosses a line imo.
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I agree, I hadn't posted on this site for a couple of years, until last week because of posts like that. The best coach in the World trusts him.
Do you need rubbish like that?
 
See the problem with lewis is that he has been tried in numerous positions and he excels in none of them, i just dont see what he brings to the table unfortunately, he isnt particularly fast , strong, quick , skilful, quick of thought, he loses the ball way too much and is too easily knocked off it.

Whatever side he plays on the there seems to be problems down that side and when he steps into midfield he leaves gaping holes which he is not quick enough to fill, as a homegrown lad you want him to improve and get better but at the moment he does seem the weak link in the team and maybe that is down to his versatility.
 
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