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stony said:
By and large I agree with you. No child deserves that, whatever it's colour or creed. But they were different times. You couldn't fight the Nazis by playing fair and you certainly couldn't fight the Japanese by playing fair.
The Japanese were a warrior nation, they despised weakness, which is why they treated our POW's so poorly. In their eyes anyone who surrendered was less than a man, that's why they didn't treat them like men. You can't fight a nation with a mindset like that by playing fair and you can't judge the people who had to fight them by todays standards.
The Japanese got off lightly, very lightly for the atrocities they carried out for the sake of conquest and expansionism.
We were defending ourselves, they were hell bent on conquest. You can't start complaining if you kick a dog and it bites you.
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We could have though. Using Mosquitos and fighter-bombers like the Typhoon and the Tempest, the Hurricane was pretty decent with 40mms on as well, we used precision bombing to strike military targets. A review of effectiveness at the end of the war concluded the efficiency of the precision bombers like the Mosquito was far far higher than area bombers like the Lancaster. We did not need to area bomb and the Americans needn't have dropped the atomic bombs or bombed Japan to the extent it did. Innocent people died for no good reason.
 
SWP's back said:
Don't sure why we should always fight with the arm tied behind the back.
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Build less Lancasters, build more Mosquitos, more effective and more efficient RAF and far less civilian causalities.

Glorious plane: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito</a>
 
Skashion said:
stony said:
By and large I agree with you. No child deserves that, whatever it's colour or creed. But they were different times. You couldn't fight the Nazis by playing fair and you certainly couldn't fight the Japanese by playing fair.
The Japanese were a warrior nation, they despised weakness, which is why they treated our POW's so poorly. In their eyes anyone who surrendered was less than a man, that's why they didn't treat them like men. You can't fight a nation with a mindset like that by playing fair and you can't judge the people who had to fight them by todays standards.
The Japanese got off lightly, very lightly for the atrocities they carried out for the sake of conquest and expansionism.
We were defending ourselves, they were hell bent on conquest. You can't start complaining if you kick a dog and it bites you.
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We could have though. Using Mosquitos and fighter-bombers like the Typhoon and the Tempest, the Hurricane was pretty decent with 40mms on as well, we used precision bombing to strike military targets. A review of effectiveness at the end of the war concluded the efficiency of the precision bombers like the Mosquito was far far higher than area bombers like the Lancaster. We did not need to area bomb and the Americans needn't have dropped the atomic bombs or bombed Japan to the extent it did. Innocent people died for no good reason.
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If the Americans hadn't brought the second world war to a rapid conclusion (something they warned the Japanese about if they didn't surrender) how would you have fancied being in the first wave ashore to meet the innocent Japanese public because someone would have had to do it.
 
Buildings just don't collapse like the Twin Towers did.

Or do they........................

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTAlgAWkqro[/youtube]
 
i kne albert davy said:
If the Americans hadn't brought the second world war to a rapid conclusion (something they warned the Japanese about if they didn't surrender) how would you have fancied being in the first wave ashore to meet the innocent Japanese public because someone would have had to do it.
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I could understand it if someone hasn't read a whole thread but my argument against this is in the last three pages. That's lazy as fuck.
 
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