9 | Erling Haaland - 2025/26

samuelyeboah said:
we don't put balls in like that because he's not in that position, ever. we often deliver decent crosses into the box and he's nowhere near the ball
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Define often because I think that is doing considerably heavy lifting there. We rarely put crosses in, rarer still, good ones.

Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being. It's also worth noting Marmoush was playing left wing today, he's come in off the left, so if we are comparing his movement to anybody it should be our other left wingers be that doku or savinho.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Dont understand why Pep put him on today, he's shattered and needed the break so why make him do the 20? Mukasa could have done that.


When's the last time we put a ball like that in? Not like he's failing to connect to those kind of deliveries every week. That ball was very much a rarity, nunes is the only one who deliveries that kind of ball and only when he's allowed to support the attack and isnt forced into the walker role.
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He doesn't attack those crosses anyway, he just hopes it bypasses all the defenders and he heads it home, that's how he scored against the dippers because Konate missed the ball, if that's him instead of Marmoush today the defender clears it.
 
Chak19 said:
He doesn't attack those crosses anyway, he just hopes it bypasses all the defenders and he heads it home, that's how he scored against the dippers because Konate missed the ball, if that's him instead of Marmoush today the defender clears it.
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I dont think its fair or accurate to say that when we simply don't put those kind of crosses in. If we are sticking in half a dozen of those crosses a game and he isn't feasting on them then fair enough but that is simply not the case.

And as mentioned above, Marmoush was left wing, not striker, so its not a direct comparison. we can have marmoush and Haaland both getting into the box. Having more than a single goal threat in the box has become a novel thing for us but it happens elsewhere, let's hope marmoush and semenyo from wherever he is playing both make this a habit.

Who is to say if Haaland is upfront and he's got Marmoush and/or semenyo coming in off the flanks attacking the back post area and we actually put a few balls in, we see him attacking the front post more.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Define often because I think that is doing considerably heavy lifting there. We rarely put crosses in, rarer still, good ones.

Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being. It's also worth noting Marmoush was playing left wing today, he's come in off the left, so if we are comparing his movement to anybody it should be our other left wingers be that doku or savinho.
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"Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being" but that's my point. it's not the positioning of erling that's the problem, it's the movement. marmoush attacks the 6 yard box and gets infront of the defender, whereas erling usually stays outside the 6 yard box and is trying to position himself behind the defender. i've shown an example here :

samuelyeboah said:
I don't mean to belabor the point here, just wanted to provide a video format

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like you said, marmoush and haaland basically occupy the same place when a cross would be coming in. but haaland is running UP and away from goal, going *behind* the defender. in marmoush's goal, he's running DOWN and towards goal, and gets infront of the defender. THAT is the difference.
 
samuelyeboah said:
"Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being" but that's my point. it's not the positioning of erling that's the problem, it's the movement. marmoush attacks the 6 yard box and gets infront of the defender, whereas erling usually stays outside the 6 yard box and is trying to position himself behind the defender. i've shown an example here :


like you said, marmoush and haaland basically occupy the same place when a cross would be coming in. but haaland is running UP and away from goal, going *behind* the defender. in marmoush's goal, he's running DOWN and towards goal, and gets infront of the defender. THAT is the difference.
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But you're comparing 2 entirely different situations with that example. In that scenario you've posted it's without a doubt the correct move to go back post, he can see there's another player entering the near post position and the only options there is a cut back or a dink to the back post so he goes for the latter. If you can find similar situations where somebody is whipping in the kind of ball Nunes did today and Haaland is nowhere to be seen then fair enough but it doesnt happen. We're essentially blaming him for not getting on the end of balls that arent put in here.
 
ninjamonkey said:
But you're comparing 2 entirely different situations with that example. In that scenario you've posted it's without a doubt the correct move to go back post, he can see there's another player entering the near post position and the only options there is a cut back or a dink to the back post so he goes for the latter. If you can find similar situations where somebody is whipping in the kind of ball Nunes did today and Haaland is nowhere to be seen then fair enough but it doesnt happen. We're essentially blaming him for not getting on the end of balls that arent put in here.
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i really don't understand how you're not seeing it but i guess you won't be convinced. to me these 2 situations are very reminiscent and very illustrative.
 
samuelyeboah said:
i really don't understand how you're not seeing it but i guess you won't be convinced. to me these 2 situations are very reminiscent and very illustrative.
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I can see what you're saying, but you're suggesting the situations are similar when they're not even slightly close. The only similarity is in the starting position of haaland/marmoush, the rest is completely different. In that instance, Haalands movement is spot on, he draws a defender in before peeling and looking at getting himself into the back post, 1 of the 2 possible areas the ball can go with the other already being covered by another player.

Find me somebody whipping in a ball like Nunes' today from a generally similar position from either flank and Haaland not making the movement Marmoush did.
 
I don't care what anyone has said before about this lad.
But my view is ..

I've been going to city since 1984.
And I can say with out any hesitation.
This lad is the best goal scorer I've seen in that time.
Thats live.
On tv or anywhere.
We need to use him properly or we will miss an opportunity to create history with this lad.
He could break every record there has every been.
And we could win more than any team ever.
But to do that we have to play to his strengths.
If we don't we might as well sell him.
If he played for the dippers when they had kloop he would have scored 5 goals a game.
As amazing as pep has been .
He's must be able to see he isn't getting the best out of the best forward in the last 20 years
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
I don't care what anyone has said before about this lad.
But my view is ..

I've been going to city since 1984.
And I can say with out any hesitation.
This lad is the best goal scorer I've seen in that time.
Thats live.
On tv or anywhere.
We need to use him properly or we will miss an opportunity to create history with this lad.
He could break every record there has every been.
And we could win more than any team ever.
But to do that we have to play to his strengths.
If we don't we might as well sell him.
If he played for the dippers when they had kloop he would have scored 5 goals a game.
As amazing as pep has been .
He's must be able to see he isn't getting the best out of the best forward in the last 20 years
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1984, young fucker.:-)
 
Luckily he can play with Marmoush as well, or Semenyo.

Hope to see this split striker system continue
 
One of the main reasons Haaland has dropped off, is because we have stopped the counter attacks and direct play from early on this season, for some reason we changed and the wheels fell off and he seems to have lost his drive to run into space.
For me Alvarez was always more a City/Pep player, (Kun like) one had too go and because of the way Pep likes to play, we took the wrong option, for the team as a whole, I understand this may not the view of the majority, it is just my view.
 
This is a worrying time for haaland for me because the way we are playing is not suited to his game anymore. We are nowhere near as dominant in games as we used to be but shouldn’t that mean we are penned back into our own half more and be able to hit long balls to him ?.
Pep won’t sub him for long even though he should and didn’t help himself against wolves either. Worrying times for him and the club because I can’t see him being happy on the bench for long.
His ridiculous goal record will only carry him so far if he’s doing fuckall and missing sitters when he gets the chance.
I’m sure he will start scoring again but what is it now 7 games ?.
 
Deservedly dropped against Wolves , he has been disinterested the last few games ,if he isnt scoring goals it affects him , he lives for goals , a lot of the blame is on our players , when you watch him live he is normally continually making runs and pointing were he wants the ball and we ignore him, the best finisher in the world and we dont give him the ball or cross the ball when we get the chance.
Do have sympathy for big Erling , no doubt a couple of goals will bring him back to somewhere near the player we know and love.
 
samuelyeboah said:
"Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being" but that's my point. it's not the positioning of erling that's the problem, it's the movement. marmoush attacks the 6 yard box and gets infront of the defender, whereas erling usually stays outside the 6 yard box and is trying to position himself behind the defender. i've shown an example here :


like you said, marmoush and haaland basically occupy the same place when a cross would be coming in. but haaland is running UP and away from goal, going *behind* the defender. in marmoush's goal, he's running DOWN and towards goal, and gets infront of the defender. THAT is the difference.
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That's a corker for world class movement, im free here best run over there to that defender:-)

Anyhow he's been very poor recently, was rightly dropped(should have been sooner) and his replacements marmoush and semenyo scored and actually ran around quite a bit.

Why the fuck Pep brought him and Foden on christ knows. They both could have had at least 8 days rest.
 
One word sums up Haaland recently; effort, or rather lack thereof.

This talk of 'he's not being fed the ball properly' or 'it's how Pep wants him to play', really?
Neither Semenyo nor Marmoush were doing that and both scored in one half.

We know his potential, we know his skill, but he's also not the finished product and could add so much more to his game if he became a little more technical on the ball and actually won it for himself.
 
Metal Biker said:
One word sums up Haaland recently; effort, or rather lack thereof.

This talk of 'he's not being fed the ball properly' or 'it's how Pep wants him to play', really?
Neither Semenyo nor Marmoush were doing that and both scored in one half.

We know his potential, we know his skill, but he's also not the finished product and could add so much more to his game if he became a little more technical on the ball and actually won it for himself.
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Which he was doing earlier in the season. He was dropping deeper and it was clear his link up play had improved. Where is that player now?

I’m not sure why he and Foden bothered coming on yesterday, they were hardly chomping at the bit to impress
 
samuelyeboah said:
"Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being" but that's my point. it's not the positioning of erling that's the problem, it's the movement. marmoush attacks the 6 yard box and gets infront of the defender, whereas erling usually stays outside the 6 yard box and is trying to position himself behind the defender. i've shown an example here :


like you said, marmoush and haaland basically occupy the same place when a cross would be coming in. but haaland is running UP and away from goal, going *behind* the defender. in marmoush's goal, he's running DOWN and towards goal, and gets infront of the defender. THAT is the difference.
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I’m sure he’ll be delighted to consult you about the art of goal scoring , I’d imagine you’ve bagged hundreds at the highest level .
 
samuelyeboah said:
"Marmoush's starting position when the ball is put in is actually where Haaland often is and where he is criticised for being" but that's my point. it's not the positioning of erling that's the problem, it's the movement. marmoush attacks the 6 yard box and gets infront of the defender, whereas erling usually stays outside the 6 yard box and is trying to position himself behind the defender. i've shown an example here :


like you said, marmoush and haaland basically occupy the same place when a cross would be coming in. but haaland is running UP and away from goal, going *behind* the defender. in marmoush's goal, he's running DOWN and towards goal, and gets infront of the defender. THAT is the difference.
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But that's because Haaland is big enough to win the header at the back post (and scored loads in this manner), Marmoush doesn't have that luxury so has to attack in a different manner.
 
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