A Muslim's Response...

dannybcity said:
W12 said:
dannybcity said:
Which "mass muslim rallies" might these be, I seem to have missed them?
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<a class="postlink" href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/19/uk-france-shooting-chechnya-idUKKBN0KS0L120150119" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/1 ... L120150119</a>
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Could you not find one a little closer to home than Chechnya?
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There you go Mr Magoo.

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMsU9Ex-kJY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMsU9Ex-kJY</a>
 
W12 said:
dannybcity said:
W12 said:
<a class="postlink" href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/19/uk-france-shooting-chechnya-idUKKBN0KS0L120150119" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/1 ... L120150119</a>
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Could you not find one a little closer to home than Chechnya?
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There you go Mr Magoo.

<a class="postlink" href="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMsU9Ex-kJY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMsU9Ex-kJY</a>
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You're first example was, to be fair, a good example of a "mass muslim rally" albeit a Chechen one. That youtube clip is not.
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
Yep. Had this been a Christian, Damocles probably would have ridiculed this guy too.

He believes that Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse. Just let that sink in for a minute.
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Yep, my atheistic beliefs only apply to Christians and the fact that he made an emotive and relevant point to a cultural problem is completely lost on me.

You total moron
 
Well this thread descended immediately into the bigoted shite that I absolutely expected.

For the record we have numerous Muslims on the forum, including many long term posters who have been around far longer than most, and almost none of them post in The Cellar entirely because of this shite.

You've made fellow City fans uncomfortable talking because they don't want to fight through your bigoted bullshit.

Congratulations you fucking bellends.
 
Yep damo read the op thought yes - thought provoking but this thread is going to be trouble so I'll steer clear



I wish some ppl would really think about the wider picture before they pist and every thread isn't a competition to see who can pist the "funniest" response
 
Damocles said:
Well this thread descended immediately into the bigoted shite that I absolutely expected.

For the record we have numerous Muslims on the forum, including many long term posters who have been around far longer than most, and almost none of them post in The Cellar entirely because of this shite.

You've made fellow City fans uncomfortable talking because they don't want to fight through your bigoted bullshit.

Congratulations you fucking bellends.
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Maybe they should post, but if they don't want to put their point of view across then so be it. I haven't read the thread as anyone who has read any Muslim related thread on here knows what will be posted. It is an emotive subject. Your last two posts, with their abusive elements don't particularly help, and if you weren't a MOD I'm sure you'd be pulled up for them. Fucking calm down.
 
Democracy and FOS means people have different opinions.

Something I always keep in mind. Agree or disagree, that s just the way it is, otherwise it's stifling. If you give it out, you have to be prepared to get it back in simple terms.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
A Muslim's Response to the 25,000 Anti-Islam Protesters in Germany




Dear 25,000 Anti-Islam Dresden Protesters and Pegida,

I hear you marched in your thousands against my religion. Last week, and last month. You marched against immigrants, foreigners, and anyone a shade darker. I will not draw comparisons to Nazi Germany. I will not call you bigots, I will not insult you, and I will not label you. But we do have a problem.

You marched with banners claiming your city is overcrowded with Muslims. Yet 0.1% of Dresden are Muslim. You marched claiming immigrants are cramming your schools and leaving your children to travel miles for an education. Yet 2.5% of Dresden are foreign-born.

You claim that Germany is being invaded by Muslims. Yet only 5% of Germans are Muslim.

You march "against the Islamization of the West". Yet within a century containing two World Wars, the decolonisation process, countless civil conflicts, foreign intervention, globalisation, and further displacement, Muslims remain a fringe minority in Europe. Less than 6%. A pretty lousy colonisation process, no?

You marched against refugees and asylum seekers, claiming Germany is their target for welfare and social security. Yet according to UNHCR, there are 51.2million refugees worldwide. Germany caters for less than 0.01% of them. Is that too much to ask? Is such a humanitarian obligation too large for the Refugee Convention 1951 your government ratified? Or is it actually punitive, for example, in comparison to Lebanon where every fourth person is a Syrian refugee?

Protesters, you are not alone. In my country, Britain, we have our own anti-immigration party. Ukip won their first seat in Clacton with nothing but anti-migrant rhetoric. Yet only 4.3% of Clacton are foreign-born. In a Parliamentary-based system, where each constituency elects a representative to voice their views, there is nothing Ukip can do for the people of Clacton.

Do you see a pattern? Perhaps I should explain. Your kind tend to establish themselves where their "problem" does not actually exist. Is this therefore an issue of negative perception? Fear of the unfamiliar? Intolerance in ignorance? Scapegoating an underclass? Media misinformation?

I will elaborate. London has a 36.2% foreign-born population. Relatively, that is fifteen times the population of foreigners in Dresden. A far greater diversity. Ukip poll the lowest in London compared to the rest of the country- in every demographic, foreign or not. London is a metropolis of brown, black, and white working side by side. We thrive. I saw an atheist today. Guess what? I did not try to convert him nor behead him for blasphemy; I helped him off the bus. He was 74 years old.

Does that make sense?

Your only insight into Islam is a box in your living room. Confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance infest the information you expose yourself to. Information which dehumanises and polarises anyone unlike you.

You enjoy the far-right media portrayal of Islam. It makes you feel good. Superior. Better. The barbaric Muslims, we are. We disrespect women, and we impose our beliefs on to others.

Yet did you know that Turkey, Indonesia, and Bangladesh, all Muslim majority states have had more elected female heads of state than almost every other Western country? Did you know that the Quran explicitly says "there is no compulsion in religion" (2:256), and our Prophet clarified "whomever hurts a non-Muslim will not smell a whiff of paradise"?

Did you know that your twisted misrepresentation of my religion helps the terrorists? Did you know that you and the terrorists agree on what seems to form an integral part of your identity: that Islam is violent? Did you know that you even use the same methodology to proclaim this; taking a verse out of context and evading any intellectual discourse?

What are Muslims to you, anyway? Arabs? Less than 20% of us are Arab. Indian or Pakistani? Again, less than 20%. Turkish? Less than 5%. Nothing else? That is more than half of us you cannot identify.

You assume our identity by our race. Is it not disheartening to you that such a narrow world view is legitimately held by so many? Does it not display a perspective so constrained to the contents of immediate life and prejudice? Is that not likely to lead to ignorant assumptions and offence in face of what is unbeknownst?

What becomes of the German Muslim, I wonder? Is he spared because he is white? Or is he declared a traitor and shunned? Is it difficult to choose between racism and neglecting a fellow countryman? Choose neither. Choose education. Tolerance. Kindness.

Detach from the vicious cycle of far-right media (who are unfamiliar with foreigners) feeding the far-right populace (who are unfamiliar with foreigners) what they should think about foreigners.

I ask you, have you ever met a Muslim? "Met" is not a synonym for shouting abuse at or stabbing to death in or outside their home. No, have you ever sat with a Muslim? Talked to a Muslim? Worked with a Muslim?

You should. At an airport perhaps, where we are 42 times more likely to be searched, and thus declared safe for human interaction.

Sincerely,
A Real-Life Muslim (not the ones on TV)



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in retaliation muslims should take to the streets to protest about books/ cartoons that should be burned and authors who should be killed

burn a few poppies and carry banners about beheading people for good measure

that'd show 'em, the nasty horrible racists
 
stonerblue said:
All the usual suspects spouting their usual racist shit again in this thread.
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Here we go again with the racism accusations. You do realise it's possible to mock ridiculous religious belief without being racist?

Is that you Perez?
 
Johnsonontheleft said:
stonerblue said:
All the usual suspects spouting their usual racist shit again in this thread.
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Here we go again with the racism accusations. You do realise it's possible to mock ridiculous religious belief without being racist?

Is that you Perez?
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Problem is that where a religion is mixed with a culture the lines are blurred. For over 40 years since the race relations act any discrimination and/or hatred on grounds of race, religion, national origin, ethic identity etc are prosecuted under the heading 'racist.' it's a way of grouping together similar crimes.

Although no one on here has been racist I often see on comment pages "muzzrats" and "sand n*ggers" and then trying to squirm out of it by saying Islam isn't a race.
 
I have never seen more stupidity than the concept of Atheism. The atheists think they are smart and know the truth more than others, while actually they know nothing at all, they are totally empty, clueless, pretend that they believe in science when the truth is every thing in science proves one fact that atheism is the best definition for stupidity
 
Millennium said:
I have never seen more stupidity than the concept of Atheism. The atheists think they are smart and know the truth more than others, while actually they know nothing at all, they are totally empty, clueless, pretend that they believe in science when the truth is every thing in science proves one fact that atheism is the best definition for stupidity
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Why is atheism stupid?
 
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