A quick question for "singing" block(s)

I remember one of the times Arsenal were beating us 4.0 after about 20 minutes at MR, Arsen popped out of the dug out to look at the City fans and looked amazed to see us all chanting and singing as though it was us that were winning. We made a hell of a noise, all sides of the ground including the Main Stand and carried it on 'til the end of the game.
MR rocked and it was a real carnival atmosphere.
Different times and different expectations.
Much prefer it now though.
 
Bentheblue said:
I remember one of the times Arsenal were beating us 4.0 after about 20 minutes at MR, Arsen popped out of the dug out to look at the City fans and looked amazed to see us all chanting and singing as though it was us that were winning. We made a hell of a noise, all sides of the ground including the Main Stand and carried it on 'til the end of the game.
MR rocked and it was a real carnival atmosphere.
Different times and different expectations.
Much prefer it now though.
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Didn't keown clap the kippax and can we play you every week get sung ?
 
Bentheblue said:
I remember one of the times Arsenal were beating us 4.0 after about 20 minutes at MR, Arsen popped out of the dug out to look at the City fans and looked amazed to see us all chanting and singing as though it was us that were winning. We made a hell of a noise, all sides of the ground including the Main Stand and carried it on 'til the end of the game.
MR rocked and it was a real carnival atmosphere.
Different times and different expectations.
Much prefer it now though.
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Back in the days when we got on well with Arsenal (probably because we weren't direct rivals). It was actually a very important game for us as we were in the midst of a relegation battle but after 20 minutes the game was already lost. The second half was incredible atmosphere wise and I remember Arsenal's substituted players receiving standing ovations. Also, I'm pretty sure Wenger was on record as praising our fans after the game and an Arsenal fan who had been at the game phoned the local radio station afterwards saying our fans were the best he'd ever heard.

That said, one long-standing blue I know walked out in the first half and when I saw him on the coach at the next away game (Leicester I think - we won 2-1 with a Wanchope back heel), he said he couldn't be doing with the attitude of singing our hearts out while we were getting battered. Fucking boring c*nt!
 
Its all one big myth, it was just a way of getting groups of mates finally back together after the move from Maine Road. Heard more singing coming from the Family stand.
 
mcfcstu said:
Its all one big myth, it was just a way of getting groups of mates finally back together after the move from Maine Road. Heard more singing coming from the Family stand.
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That was the case for the last midweek game. Palace at home IIRC.

It's a shame for the couple of hundred in the South Stand who usually ding their hearts out!
 
From where I sit in 105, the main effect of the new stand is that it has quite significantly reduced the noise from the away fans. Which was a mercy on Saturday.
 
I moved to the new singing section from 110. To be honest, personally, I'm just sick of singing about United, I couldn't give a flying fuck about them so why would I sing songs about them at 3-0 to some bang average Liverpool team? I pay my money and support my team, but I won't be singing any songs about the vermin anymore, because who actually gives a fuck?
 
citytillidie24 said:
I moved to the new singing section from 110. To be honest, personally, I'm just sick of singing about United, I couldn't give a flying fuck about them so why would I sing songs about them at 3-0 to some bang average Liverpool team? I pay my money and support my team, but I won't be singing any songs about the vermin anymore, because who actually gives a fuck?
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I don't recall too many songs about the Rags on Saturday - maybe one or 2 but they were way outnumbered by other songs.
 
M18CTID said:
I don't recall too many songs about the Rags on Saturday - maybe one or 2 but they were way outnumbered by other songs.
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It's not just Saturday, it's every week. It's just my opinion, surely we're better than singing songs about those twats?
 
The season started off fantastically with the Chelsea game. The atmosphere on that day was up there with the best I'd seen at the Etihad. That was followed by the Watford game, which again had a tremendous buzz to it.
After that it started to wane, West Ham wasn't great and the result no doubt played a part. The Newcastle game was similar until around the 50th minute when we turned the game on its head and Norwich was just run of the mill.
The Liverpool game, for the occasion it was, wasn't great. I accept the score line won't have helped but from going a goal down there didn't seem to be much coming from the stands to spur us on - not that it would have made much difference judging from what we saw on the pitch.

All told I'd say it's been better than recent seasons but definitely room for improvement.
 
ok a few points here. people need to look at the improvement over 3 years including the much better levels of noise this year and take positives from that. we don't have hundreds of young energetic fans in blocks anywhere in the ground, we have a very corporate ground with many new fans. that's where we are.

have most of the people in this thread moved to 114-115 or stayed where they are ? people had months to move. to get involved. credit to those who have moved and are trying to do something about it. if you care that much, why haven't you moved ? if all the singers round the ground would've have moved we'd have had a proper end. they didn't...so we haven't ! and we don't have huge numbers of singers anyway these days so let's be realistic and take gradual improvements in the noise levels as progress.

lets make the same points again so people can see what we are up against, constantly swimming against the tide.

out of 700 who said they would move 593 provided full details. most wanted to move with mates and would only move if they got their preferred area ie top middle or bottom. because a lot wanted top we had to get half of 114 to allow people to get the part of the block they most wanted. so we have a lot of singers at the backs of 114 115 and dolly mixtures elsewhere. not enough people out there bothered to move - so we have to work with what we have. then out of the 593 we lost say another 100 to tier 3 because the club made prices cheaper up there than in tier 1, so we lost a lot of livelier people that way too. we have 500 or so out of 1175 in 115 and half of 114. the rest are waiting list people parachuted in, so it is not an "ultras block" just yet, it's kind of half one. but some of the songs aren't carrying as loud as some people might have expected because not everyone in the block is a singer. I would say we can be heard though so it's up to you lot elsewhere in the ground to get your act together and join in more. get organised. we are in 115 so why leave it all to one block ???

there was an atmosphere forum on here 2 seasons ago. it was pulled after a few months. why ? lack of support. apathy. if everyone leaves it all to a few people, progress will be slower. just as well people didn't jack it in 2 years ago after seeing all the negativity on here otherwise things would be even worse at home games. we have a base to go up from at least now.

singing on the concourse builds the atmosphere. gets people pumped up. inside the ground the PA is on full blast. everyone has made the same point to the club year after year. fans cannot compete with a loud PA system or - like we had against norwich -
a brass band on the pitch. how can anyone build an atmosphere over that ? please tell us how. they have their own marketing budgets where they will spend thousands on stunts however they aren't things which necessarily would make people want to sing and shout. we can only do what we can on limited resources and limited help.

only 9 people moved from 111. so the effect there is minimal. its mainly the same people. yet 111 110 dead. come on guys at least some people are trying to get it going, why not sing too? 1894 never said it was a "singing section" - that was a term coined by the Manchester evening news. it's roughly the same thing but they said it's a "reconfiguration of the singers" and it was called that to try and manage people's expectations. if you're expectations are too high or sky high, that it should've been louder against Liverpool then all we can say is you have kept your distance too much from what is being attempted here and not followed us closely or not asked to get involved. it's small steps and building on what we have until year after year it's better and better. there are 14 spare seats in 115 so people could move there now. perhaps some fans who didn't realise what the block is about will relocate next summer and that will allow 1894 to collect names again and pass them onto the club. so if you didn't move but feel its too quiet in 115, feel free to join us, we need all the help we can get !

of course we can see there are problems, after west ham it dipped and we thought although we prefer to have a naturally built atmosphere - traditional - and we are against a drum, we'd give someone a 5 minute blast on a megaphone and see if we can liven it up. security said no. people try and congregate at the back of the stand or further down. stewards move them on and threaten them with being chucked out. people are trying everything and not sure what else people out there expect should be tried. people just aren't "up for it" like they were 20 years ago.

we brought out an app so people knew the words to all the songs...and we got slated for it on here, so if you keep hearing david silva ole all the time instead, well then there's one reason why. if you don't like the songs you are hearing and you are in another block on 1st tier, get a few mates together get in the block at the back and sing your own songs ! people will join in. anything is possible. (then you'll get moved on after 20 minutes of course !!!)

we campaign for cheaper ticket prices and safestanding. we ask for support on these issues when we have done demos as we think these things would help ensure louder atmospheres. same 200 fans outside the ground. 54,800 don't break off from their normal match day routine. happy to leave displays to a core of 12-15 people. we need you help guys, things may improve quicker !

if we have 500 singing and 54,500 not singing the answer is not to slate the 500 who are singing, it's to ask questions of the 54,500 who aren't and say - can you lot do more ?

cheers
 
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