a secular society by 2030

[pauldominic]

No - the difference between me and these vermin is that I don't molest kids, and then go to confession where another nonce tells them to light a candle and say a few mea culpas and hail marys and the slate is wiped clean to sanction further abuse.
And the priest doesn't even have to tell the police that a paedophile has just admitted a crime.
Only your idiotic,irrational and homophobic church allows that.
A good friend of mine who suffered from bipolar disorder since childhood took his own life three years ago.
I'm sure it was pure coincidence that he too was abused by a Roman Catholic priest as a young boy.
Is that enough of an example of your fellow catholics ruining the life of someone with mental health issues which they probably caused for you?
You still haven't explained to me just why a church that tolerates paedophile priests is so set against same sex couples over the age of consent being married.
I doubt you ever will,because you never answer anything.

Greetings NF.

We could continue to have tit-for-tat exchanges about Christianity, Catholicism, Mental Health, Social Work, Marriage, Paedophilia, avoiding questions etc etc.

However there's nothing I can say that will change your opinion on any of them so I won't.

However I do understand the anger, bitterness and pain you feel towards Catholicism and me.

That isn't true though Paul,because I will always try and answer any question from anybody.
They may not like or accept the answer,but I will at least try and substantiate and validate my opinion with evidence and facts.
You simply don't do this - it isn't just myself who thinks this,virtually the entire forum has had problems trying to get you to give a straight answer.
For example,myself and others have asked you exactly why you personally are so opposed to the idea of loving and committed same sex couples getting married in your church.
You simply don't address the question,and either go off on some bizarre tangent,or flounce off for a couple of hours and sulk.
This isn't how most folk debate,and it renders any attempt at serious discussion redundant.
I don't feel any bitterness or hate towards you,which may shatter your Saint Sebastian martyr complex - I just feel that you lack any degree of empathy,and that you have been so indoctrinated by your faith that you can no longer view things with the clarity and objectivity that an open mind would display.
I do,however,very much feel anger towards the Roman Catholic church and everything it stands for,but then I feel equal anger to all the other faiths that kill wholesale in the name of their god,and discriminate against some of my best friends for the 'crime' of loving each other.

This is exactly the kind of response I expected from you as a prejudiced numbskull.

How many times has BlueMoon in general heard of your bitterness, anger, pain and possibly even hatred towards Roman Catholicism?

You take every possible opportunity to move a thread towards the opportunity to post on it again.
Part of this strategy is a personal attack on me.

It isn't me who needs help. It's you NF because one thing is certain - whatever you post on here will not make a scrap of difference towards the worldwide Catholic Church, but is consuming your emotions.

You have to let the burden go somehow. It struck me yesterday that bringing stones, a sledgehammer, paint cans and other suitable instruments to Priest-Town would allow you to attack Catholic Churches and give vent to your anger.

It might even be cathartic for you.

Your approach towards me is different but also entirely predictable.

Something along the lines of "There, there, you suffer from depression and you've been indoctrinated. Keep taking the pills and leave serious discussions to the grown-ups".

 

[pauldominic]

No - the difference between me and these vermin is that I don't molest kids, and then go to confession where another nonce tells them to light a candle and say a few mea culpas and hail marys and the slate is wiped clean to sanction further abuse.
And the priest doesn't even have to tell the police that a paedophile has just admitted a crime.
Only your idiotic,irrational and homophobic church allows that.
A good friend of mine who suffered from bipolar disorder since childhood took his own life three years ago.
I'm sure it was pure coincidence that he too was abused by a Roman Catholic priest as a young boy.
Is that enough of an example of your fellow catholics ruining the life of someone with mental health issues which they probably caused for you?
You still haven't explained to me just why a church that tolerates paedophile priests is so set against same sex couples over the age of consent being married.
I doubt you ever will,because you never answer anything.

Greetings NF.

We could continue to have tit-for-tat exchanges about Christianity, Catholicism, Mental Health, Social Work, Marriage, Paedophilia, avoiding questions etc etc.

However there's nothing I can say that will change your opinion on any of them so I won't.

However I do understand the anger, bitterness and pain you feel towards Catholicism and me.

i don't think you do

these people are in privleged positions of respect and trust that individuals are sucked into and as such are taken advantage of
what makes it worse they are supposed to be celibate
and in many cases protected by the heirarchy of the catholic church

Oh I do. I have seen changes taking place over many years and there is no hiding place within the Catholic church for paedophiles of any kind whether they are priests, laity, bishops or anyone.

 

[Shadz69]

If anyone believes PD's last statement check out rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.It has very recent cases involving the church and some of it's members.

 

[pauldominic]

If anyone believes PD's last statement check out rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.It has very recent cases involving the church and some of it's members.

Do you really think I was referring to the global church?

Thats a comical misinterpretation.

I was referring to these: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Groups/154833/The_Diocese_of/Admin_Commissions/Diocesan_Commissions/Safeguarding_Commission/Safeguarding_Commission.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Grou ... ssion.aspx</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/introduction/salford-safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/intr ... commission</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safeguarding/safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safe ... commission</a>

That pretty much covers the Northwest, so lets try other places like Westminster and Birmingham.

As if by magic: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/agencies/curial/safeguarding/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/age ... eguarding/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protection/default.asp?view=child&library_ref=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protectio ... rary_ref=6</a>

Westminster also kindly gives us the national policies: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/CreatingaSafeEnvironmentPolicy28112006371434.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 371434.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Organisational_Structures_Policy1242005161451.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 161451.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Responding_to_Allegations1242005171456.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 171456.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/preventingchildabuse1712005251054.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 251054.doc</a>

And here is the national co-ordinating body: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.csas.uk.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.csas.uk.net/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/</a>

Can you see a pattern emerging?

 

[zeven]

About time ppl, stop believeing all this nonsens.

Religion should be banned.

 

[Shadz69]

If anyone believes PD's last statement check out rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.It has very recent cases involving the church and some of it's members.

Do you really think I was referring to the global church?

Thats a comical misinterpretation.

I was referring to these: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Groups/154833/The_Diocese_of/Admin_Commissions/Diocesan_Commissions/Safeguarding_Commission/Safeguarding_Commission.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Grou ... ssion.aspx</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/introduction/salford-safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/intr ... commission</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safeguarding/safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safe ... commission</a>

That pretty much covers the Northwest, so lets try other places like Westminster and Birmingham.

As if by magic: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/agencies/curial/safeguarding/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/age ... eguarding/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protection/default.asp?view=child&library_ref=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protectio ... rary_ref=6</a>

Westminster also kindly gives us the national policies: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/CreatingaSafeEnvironmentPolicy28112006371434.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 371434.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Organisational_Structures_Policy1242005161451.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 161451.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Responding_to_Allegations1242005171456.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 171456.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/preventingchildabuse1712005251054.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 251054.doc</a>

And here is the national co-ordinating body: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.csas.uk.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.csas.uk.net/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/</a>

Can you see a pattern emerging?

You posted there was no hiding place in the Catholic church,you did'nt specify the UK.Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest.Is this your stand on child abuse.You have alluded to this kind of view before and I find it a comical interpretation of safeguarding children.Just as well the church have a history of following the rules and now every kid in the UK is safe.The fact the church were forced to implement these 'safeguards' should tell you all you need to know.
People can spend a bit of time searching the site I mentioned and make up their own minds on the conduct of the church though you would need a strong stomach for some of it.

 

[pauldominic]

If anyone believes PD's last statement check out rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.It has very recent cases involving the church and some of it's members.

Do you really think I was referring to the global church?

Thats a comical misinterpretation.

I was referring to these: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Groups/154833/The_Diocese_of/Admin_Commissions/Diocesan_Commissions/Safeguarding_Commission/Safeguarding_Commission.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Grou ... ssion.aspx</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/introduction/salford-safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/intr ... commission</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safeguarding/safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safe ... commission</a>

That pretty much covers the Northwest, so lets try other places like Westminster and Birmingham.

As if by magic: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/agencies/curial/safeguarding/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/age ... eguarding/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protection/default.asp?view=child&library_ref=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protectio ... rary_ref=6</a>

Westminster also kindly gives us the national policies: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/CreatingaSafeEnvironmentPolicy28112006371434.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 371434.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Organisational_Structures_Policy1242005161451.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 161451.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Responding_to_Allegations1242005171456.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 171456.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/preventingchildabuse1712005251054.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 251054.doc</a>

And here is the national co-ordinating body: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.csas.uk.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.csas.uk.net/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/</a>

Can you see a pattern emerging?

You posted there was no hiding place in the Catholic church,you did'nt specify the UK.Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest.Is this your stand on child abuse.You have alluded to this kind of view before and I find it a comical interpretation of safeguarding children.Just as well the church have a history of following the rules and now every kid in the UK is safe.The fact the church were forced to implement these 'safeguards' should tell you all you need to know.
People can spend a bit of time searching the site I mentioned and make up their own minds on the conduct of the church though you would need a strong stomach for some of it.

I found it comical because common sense based on the full sentence might have persuaded you to seek clarification.

You didn't seek that or do a modicum of research before challenging me.

You're continuing the comedy based yet again on your considerable ignorance of how catholicism (or any religion for that matter) works around the world.

If you had sought clarification you would not allege that "Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest". I have never ever alluded to anything approaching that allegation.

The church was not "forced to implement" anything. In fact I would say that safeguarding goes to the very heart of the Christian Gospel.

Can I recommend the following approach to you in future: -

1. Seek clarification if a post is open to misinterpretation.
2. Check your facts before posting.
3. Ideally keep an open mind.

 

[Matty]

Do you really think I was referring to the global church?

Thats a comical misinterpretation.

I was referring to these: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Groups/154833/The_Diocese_of/Admin_Commissions/Diocesan_Commissions/Safeguarding_Commission/Safeguarding_Commission.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Grou ... ssion.aspx</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/introduction/salford-safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/intr ... commission</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safeguarding/safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safe ... commission</a>

That pretty much covers the Northwest, so lets try other places like Westminster and Birmingham.

As if by magic: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/agencies/curial/safeguarding/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/age ... eguarding/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protection/default.asp?view=child&library_ref=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protectio ... rary_ref=6</a>

Westminster also kindly gives us the national policies: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/CreatingaSafeEnvironmentPolicy28112006371434.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 371434.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Organisational_Structures_Policy1242005161451.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 161451.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Responding_to_Allegations1242005171456.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 171456.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/preventingchildabuse1712005251054.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 251054.doc</a>

And here is the national co-ordinating body: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.csas.uk.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.csas.uk.net/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/</a>

Can you see a pattern emerging?

You posted there was no hiding place in the Catholic church,you did'nt specify the UK.Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest.Is this your stand on child abuse.You have alluded to this kind of view before and I find it a comical interpretation of safeguarding children.Just as well the church have a history of following the rules and now every kid in the UK is safe.The fact the church were forced to implement these 'safeguards' should tell you all you need to know.
People can spend a bit of time searching the site I mentioned and make up their own minds on the conduct of the church though you would need a strong stomach for some of it.

I found it comical because common sense based on the full sentence might have persuaded you to seek clarification.

You didn't seek that or do a modicum of research before challenging me.

You're continuing the comedy based yet again on your considerable ignorance of how catholicism (or any religion for that matter) works around the world.

If you had sought clarification you would not allege that "Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest". I have never ever alluded to anything approaching that allegation.

The church was not "forced to implement" anything. In fact I would say that safeguarding goes to the very heart of the Christian Gospel.

Can I recommend the following approach to you in future: -

1. Seek clarification if a post is open to misinterpretation.
2. Check your facts before posting.
3. Ideally keep an open mind.

It would probably be helpful if posts were not made in such a way as to make them open to a great degree of misinterpretation. If someone has a viewpoint and they wish to make that view public knowledge then the onus should fall upon them to make their view clear and concise. If it is worded in such a way as to make it unclear as to the meaning then it could be argued the fault is with the original poster and not those who subsequently misinterpret an ambiguous post.

 

[The Flash]

Greetings NF.

We could continue to have tit-for-tat exchanges about Christianity, Catholicism, Mental Health, Social Work, Marriage, Paedophilia, avoiding questions etc etc.

However there's nothing I can say that will change your opinion on any of them so I won't.

However I do understand the anger, bitterness and pain you feel towards Catholicism and me.

That isn't true though Paul,because I will always try and answer any question from anybody.
They may not like or accept the answer,but I will at least try and substantiate and validate my opinion with evidence and facts.
You simply don't do this - it isn't just myself who thinks this,virtually the entire forum has had problems trying to get you to give a straight answer.
For example,myself and others have asked you exactly why you personally are so opposed to the idea of loving and committed same sex couples getting married in your church.
You simply don't address the question,and either go off on some bizarre tangent,or flounce off for a couple of hours and sulk.
This isn't how most folk debate,and it renders any attempt at serious discussion redundant.
I don't feel any bitterness or hate towards you,which may shatter your Saint Sebastian martyr complex - I just feel that you lack any degree of empathy,and that you have been so indoctrinated by your faith that you can no longer view things with the clarity and objectivity that an open mind would display.
I do,however,very much feel anger towards the Roman Catholic church and everything it stands for,but then I feel equal anger to all the other faiths that kill wholesale in the name of their god,and discriminate against some of my best friends for the 'crime' of loving each other.

This is exactly the kind of response I expected from you as a prejudiced numbskull.

How many times has BlueMoon in general heard of your bitterness, anger, pain and possibly even hatred towards Roman Catholicism?

You take every possible opportunity to move a thread towards the opportunity to post on it again.
Part of this strategy is a personal attack on me.

It isn't me who needs help. It's you NF because one thing is certain - whatever you post on here will not make a scrap of difference towards the worldwide Catholic Church, but is consuming your emotions.

You have to let the burden go somehow. It struck me yesterday that bringing stones, a sledgehammer, paint cans and other suitable instruments to Priest-Town would allow you to attack Catholic Churches and give vent to your anger.

It might even be cathartic for you.

Your approach towards me is different but also entirely predictable.

Something along the lines of "There, there, you suffer from depression and you've been indoctrinated. Keep taking the pills and leave serious discussions to the grown-ups".

Oh dear.

A vile response to what was a reasonable reply.

The fact the remains that the church has, and probably still is, protecting paedophiles and allowing innocent lives to be ruined in the name of God. (See Shadz's link)

The church has so much blood on it's hands and those that defend it are equally as culpable, in my opinion.

 

[Shadz69]

Do you really think I was referring to the global church?

Thats a comical misinterpretation.

I was referring to these: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.liverpoolcatholic.org.uk/index.php?p=44</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Groups/154833/The_Diocese_of/Admin_Commissions/Diocesan_Commissions/Safeguarding_Commission/Safeguarding_Commission.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.lancasterdiocese.org.uk/Grou ... ssion.aspx</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/introduction/salford-safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/intr ... commission</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safeguarding/safeguarding-commission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dioceseofshrewsbury.org/safe ... commission</a>

That pretty much covers the Northwest, so lets try other places like Westminster and Birmingham.

As if by magic: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/agencies/curial/safeguarding/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/age ... eguarding/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protection/default.asp?view=child&library_ref=6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/child_protectio ... rary_ref=6</a>

Westminster also kindly gives us the national policies: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/CreatingaSafeEnvironmentPolicy28112006371434.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 371434.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Organisational_Structures_Policy1242005161451.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 161451.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/Responding_to_Allegations1242005171456.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 171456.pdf</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/upload/preventingchildabuse1712005251054.doc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rcdow.org.uk/fileupload/uplo ... 251054.doc</a>

And here is the national co-ordinating body: -

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.csas.uk.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.csas.uk.net/</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.catholicsafeguarding.org.uk/</a>

Can you see a pattern emerging?

You posted there was no hiding place in the Catholic church,you did'nt specify the UK.Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest.Is this your stand on child abuse.You have alluded to this kind of view before and I find it a comical interpretation of safeguarding children.Just as well the church have a history of following the rules and now every kid in the UK is safe.The fact the church were forced to implement these 'safeguards' should tell you all you need to know.
People can spend a bit of time searching the site I mentioned and make up their own minds on the conduct of the church though you would need a strong stomach for some of it.

I found it comical because common sense based on the full sentence might have persuaded you to seek clarification.

You didn't seek that or do a modicum of research before challenging me.

You're continuing the comedy based yet again on your considerable ignorance of how catholicism (or any religion for that matter) works around the world.

If you had sought clarification you would not allege that "Once British catholic kids are OK fuck the rest". I have never ever alluded to anything approaching that allegation.

The church was not "forced to implement" anything. In fact I would say that safeguarding goes to the very heart of the Christian Gospel.

Can I recommend the following approach to you in future: -

1. Seek clarification if a post is open to misinterpretation.
2. Check your facts before posting.
3. Ideally keep an open mind.

This is your post-Oh I do. I have seen changes taking place over many years and there is no hiding place within the Catholic church for paedophiles of any kind whether they are priests, laity, bishops or anyone.


Not really open to interpretation imo.I won't be drawn into insulting you so you can try to have the thread pulled.The behaviour of the church when dealing with abuse leaves no room for an open mind but I won't post anything concerning abuse of British priests or the subsequent covering up by senior officials within the church because when I do you pm me telling of your shock,upset and revulsion.I fear your ignorance in these matters leaves you no recourse but petty jibes and would advise you to check for yourself which current church leaders were involved in investigating abuse claims,their subsequent actions and the promotions they have reciced since.