JRockBlues
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A thread about protesters
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If a nutter wants to stick himself to the road, they run the high risk of getting run over.
I think if this occured in darkness, a driver would have an argument of accidental death
Any half decent journalist should be able to track the guy down or any witnesses and uncover the facts. The guy phoned a national talk radio station I'd be willing to bet he'd be keen for his story to get a wider audience.Bit of a strange prank call and why and by whom would they be corroborated? Medical records are kept private for obvious reasons. The caller sounded pretty sincere to me.
Just because he sounded sincere it doesn't mean it wasn't a load of old arse.
The worrying thing about this, is the traction it got in printed and online media. The Metro, Daily Mirror etc. all ran the story without it being confirmed.
Well the only route to confirmation is via the radio show. And maybe they have a confidentiality agreement in place with callers. A journalist isn’t getting this from the hospital for obvious reasons so it is through the radio channel only, who, when requested the for the guys number may have said no.Any half decent journalist should be able to track the guy down or any witnesses and uncover the facts. The guy phoned a national talk radio station I'd be willing to bet he'd be keen for his story to get a wider audience.
Just because he sounded sincere it doesn't mean it wasn't a load of old arse.
The worrying thing about this, is the traction it got in printed and online media. The Metro, Daily Mirror etc. all ran the story without it being confirmed.
I agree there'd be confidentiality agreements in place at LBC but a journalist wouldn't be very good at their job if they gave up there.
If (and it's a very big if) this story is true then surely there'd be a trail somewhere? Family or friends would have posted about it on social media, people at the hospital at the time would no doubt have shared this experience too.
Insulate Britain have many enemies in the press, this story would fire up those who hate them and even piss off their supporters. It's a win win story for the media yet they haven't been able to confirm it.
London Service NHS Trust already confirmed there was no impact to service, so that blows a hole in the caller's first part of the story.
If (and it's a very big if) this story is true then surely there'd be a trail somewhere? Family or friends would have posted about it on social media, people at the hospital at the time would no doubt have shared this experience too.
Insulate Britain have many enemies in the press, this story would fire up those who hate them and even piss off their supporters. It's a win win story for the media yet they haven't been able to confirm it.
London Service NHS Trust already confirmed there was no impact to service, so that blows a hole in the caller's first part of the story.
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If you accede to the irrational, if you pander to extremism, if you grant each and every outlandish protest movement their desires, then the scourge of hundreds of others will appear overnight. Which then results in the problem magnified to crisis proportions, far worse than a kickback from clamping down on one minor group.I get what you're saying but I feel like you've missed my point.
If you make martyrs of them then you're only going to get more of them in response. However inconvenient you think it is now, multiply that by 10. Making a martyr out of them is how they win.
These people are now inside for defying the courts, should they be allowed to continue to do this ad infinitum?
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It matters not how much public opinion is against these idiots,Let's face it they are an anti-government protest group and that's it which is why they're defended on here.
or indeed similar groups determined to make the public's lives a misery, if they're against the govt, they'll get a warm reception here.
Well no they shouldn't, but the current process of arresting them and sending them to court is working far better than if someone decides to harm them and make a martyr out of then.If you accede to the irrational, if you pander to extremism, if you grant each and every outlandish protest movement their desires, then the scourge of hundreds of others will appear overnight. Which then results in the problem magnified to crisis proportions, far worse than a kickback from clamping down on one minor group.
These people are now inside for defying the courts, should they be allowed to continue to do this ad infinitum?
These road blockings have been popping up periodically and they've never been too bad for too long. It's the same small set of people every year. Run one over with your car and I promise you the numbers will boom.
hilts
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If you accede to the irrational, if you pander to extremism, if you grant each and every outlandish protest movement their desires, then the scourge of hundreds of others will appear overnight. Which then results in the problem magnified to crisis proportions, far worse than a kickback from clamping down on one minor group.
These people are now inside for defying the courts, should they be allowed to continue to do this ad infinitum?
You have a funny sense of extremism a bit of glue and the mad bad ideology of insulating homes.
Should we be allowed to continually destroy the planet?
I know which is the most extreme and dangerous ideology.
How is protesting preventing the continued destruction of the planet? This is the idiocy of these arguments, it's like these protesters are doing great work and they're the line between good and evil but they aren't, they aren't scientists, they're idiots gluing themselves to a road.You have a funny sense of extremism a bit of glue and the mad bad ideology of insulating homes.
Should we be allowed to continually destroy the planet?
I know which is the most extreme and dangerous ideology.
What the protesters have done is raised awareness not of insulation but rather of just how shit we ALL are in dealing with this issue. Deep down though we know there's nothing we can do about it and the reality is none of us are prepared to suffer to help. You don't even need insulation, just turn the heating off and keep it off but how many will or even can do that?
I live in a new build which has solar panels that generate next to nothing at the moment because of the low sun and short days. It also has plenty of insulation, we have it in the attic and we have it in the wall cavities. However, even with these 'efficient' things we still rely on the grid for 99% of our electricity and we put the heating on in the evening last night and early today because it was freezing. It therefore does not make any real difference.
Consider this, to avoid catastrophic warming we have to reduce our emissions faster than we have increased them over the last century... At no point in history have emissions fallen except for the worst of the pandemic last year where our social and economic systems basically collapsed for 6 months.
I believe in climate change and it's almost certainly going to cause us problems but I don't think that we can do anything about it. The only thing we can do about it is to take radical actions to bring us back to the low emission equivalent of life in the 1800's.... And wasn't life great in those days?