A thread about protesters

KS55 said:
Young men are far more likely to be attacked than women, but the nature of the attack may be very different.
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I think this is a very important point which hasn't been focussed on, and is the key point behind the issue at hand.

My perception is that, for any given incident, women are more likely to fear/suffer sexual assault of some kind than men. I don't have any ideas how that can be changed though.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Protest has achieved, among many other things:

Women's suffrage.
Suffrage for all races.
Acceptance of LGBT people.
UK reluctance to engage in war since 2003.
Protection of Muslim's against Trumps airport ban.
Withdrawal of troops from Vietnam and other wars.
An end to segregation.
And end to Communism in states like Czechoslovakia.

The government is now effectively trying to ban protest. Please look at how you, your family and others have benefited from these. Please do not stigmatise protest.
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That's bullshit mate, sorry.

1. The police, not the government, were responsible for the actions recently.
2. None of the above protests have in themselves, endangered the lives of thousands of people.

It's unfortunate - because it sends out a bad signal - that we were not also heavy-handed with other illegal protests such as BLM and Bristol Colston riots. We should have clamped down on those as well. I'd have the water cannon out personally.

We are in a lockdown for a reason. You might not mind having your life being put needlessly at risk by spreading virus through illegal gatherings, but most other people do. I do. I resent having to stay in for a year, only so some people can go to a rave, or fuck about in some random protest, not giving a stuff. Throw the bloody book at them I say.
 
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KS55 said:
Young men are far more likely to be attacked than women, but the nature of the attack may be very different.
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Absolutely, a sort of random getting your head kicked in or stabbed thing is probably more on the cards for blokes. I suppose we all use that '6th sense' to detect trouble brewing in a pub or taxi-rank in the same way that women avoid certain situations. I generally feel doing so is more restrictive to women - I have no stats to back this up mind, so may be talking shite.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, a sort of random getting your head kicked in or stabbed thing is probably more on the cards for blokes. I suppose we all use that '6th sense' to detect trouble brewing in a pub or taxi-rank in the same way that women avoid certain situations. I generally feel doing so is more restrictive to women - I have no stats to back this up mind, so may be talking shite.
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I'm a coward so when my 6th sense tingles, I walk away swiftly. (Well, I used to, now it's a sad case of shuffle off slowly).
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
She would have been these days, unquestionably
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I didn't realise that but there's plenty out there who keep taking the abuse without reporting to the police and consequently some pay the ultimate price. Fortunately the friend I quoted is the only one I know of to have suffered domestic abuse, from all my mate's, their partners and spouses I don't know of any other incidences. I posted before one of my golfing friends has a daughter who murdered her partner and father of her three kids with the aid of two blokes she "met" on the internet, she's one sick fucker and she's out of prison now.
 
You won't read much about it in the current misandrist political climate but you will find that research has shown that rather than being a male violence thing, domestic abuse is more likely to be a result of proximity.

www.bbc.co.uk

Is violence more common in same-sex relationships?

A study in the US suggests that same-sex relationships suffer higher levels of domestic violence than heterosexual ones. Why is this and how are victims being helped?
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
No, you can't have a revolution, it is against the law.

No, you can't protest, its against the law

No, you can't moan, its against the law

No, you can't disagree, its against the law

Democracy, no you cant, its against the law

Oh fuck, we live in an Authoritarian state, everything is against the law., I am sure that kid Rascal said Johnson was an authoritarian throwback with Fascist tendencies, but its too late now, i cant post on BM because its against the law to show dissent against the authorities, every time I go out there are secret police watching me to make sure I don't break the law.

Heil Johnson, the Fuehrer and Overlord, the man of the people who has made the UK so safe that the only people who can break the law are him and his friends.

Hurrah!!
 
Rascal said:
No, you can't have a revolution, it is against the law.

No, you can't protest, its against the law

No, you can't moan, its against the law

No, you can't disagree, its against the law

Democracy, no you cant, its against the law

Oh fuck, we live in an Authoritarian state, everything is against the law., I am sure that kid Rascal said Johnson was an authoritarian throwback with Fascist tendencies, but its too late now, i cant post on BM because its against the law to show dissent against the authorities, every time I go out there are secret police watching me to make sure I don't break the law.

Heil Johnson, the Fuehrer and Overlord, the man of the people who has made the UK so safe that the only people who can break the law are him and his friends.

Hurrah!!
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We sure as hell could not have protested against Brexit in the way that was done when over a million gathered in London peacefully.
Peaceful protest has to be part of the fabric of a mature democracy.
 
Stuuuuuu said:
Protest has achieved, among many other things:

Women's suffrage.
Suffrage for all races.
Acceptance of LGBT people.
UK reluctance to engage in war since 2003.
Protection of Muslim's against Trumps airport ban.
Withdrawal of troops from Vietnam and other wars.
An end to segregation.
And end to Communism in states like Czechoslovakia.

The government is now effectively trying to ban protest. Please look at how you, your family and others have benefited from these. Please do not stigmatise protest.
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We got both Swales and Franny Lee out on the back of good old fashioned protest, too.
 
Chippy_boy said:
That's bullshit mate, sorry.

1. The police, not the government, were responsible for the actions recently.
2. None of the above protests have in themselves, endangered the lives of thousands of people.

It's unfortunate - because it sends out a bad signal - that we were not also heavy-handed with other illegal protests such as BLM and Bristol Colston riots. We should have clamped down on those as well. I'd have the water cannon out personally.

We are in a lockdown for a reason. You might not mind having your life being put needlessly at risk by spreading virus through illegal gatherings, but most other people do. I do. I resent having to stay in for a year, only so some people can go to a rave, or fuck about in some random protest, not giving a stuff. Throw the bloody book at them I say.
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When I saw the banners with "Kill The BIll" on them front and center I knew without a shadow of a doubt what all this is about now.
 
hilts said:
I think that a male is more likely to be assaulted outside the home than a woman while a woman is more likely to be assaulted within the home than a man. A woman is much more likely to be sexually assaulted than a man anywhere. Maybe we should force men to stay indoors alone while only women can roam the streets. 2 Ronnies sketch or was it the goodies? Bloody stats.

Anyhow the only stat that matters is too many people people are cunts. I think we have tried the stop being a **** please route so I’m at a loss.
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As that nutter Reynhard Sinaga (the biggest serial rapist in history) showed, men are as vulnerable to it as women and children. But men are probably far less likely to come forward to report it.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Peaceful protest has to be part of the fabric of a mature democracy.
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Of course it is.

What is worrying is the Trumpian blaming of nefarious groups as being instigators or co-opting these protests for their own personal agenda.

It is amusing or quite possibly scary that the same people on the right who moan and whinge about denial of free speech are the first to moan and whinge about protests. Do they not see the rank hypocrisy in that.

The difference being of course, the right to freedom of speech is an individual right, the right to protest is more often than not a group right and its subjugation of the group's rights that are under attack here. It always comes down to control, if you deny the right to protest, you can control the rights of the working class. The Capitalist/establishment class have no need to protest, they have everything they want.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I think this is a very important point which hasn't been focussed on, and is the key point behind the issue at hand.

My perception is that, for any given incident, women are more likely to fear/suffer sexual assault of some kind than men. I don't have any ideas how that can be changed though.
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Some pertinent statistics in this article:

www.bbc.co.uk

How many violent attacks and sexual assaults on women are there?

The deaths of Sarah Everard, Sabina Nessa, and others have highlighted the dangers women face in Britain.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

They show that normally, but not exclusively, men are the perpetrators of violence against both other men and women.
9 out of 10 that are men.
women are more likely to be sexually abused.
the level of successful prosecution for rape is pitiful and a national disgrace.
9 out of 10 'young women' have experienced some sort of sexual harassment.
 
Rascal said:
Of course it is.

What is worrying is the Trumpian blaming of nefarious groups as being instigators or co-opting these protests for their own personal agenda.

It is amusing or quite possibly scary that the same people on the right who moan and whinge about denial of free speech are the first to moan and whinge about protests. Do they not see the rank hypocrisy in that.

The difference being of course, the right to freedom of speech is an individual right, the right to protest is more often than not a group right and its subjugation of the group's rights that are under attack here. It always comes down to control, if you deny the right to protest, you can control the rights of the working class. The Capitalist/establishment class have no need to protest, they have everything they want.
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You know how I dislike that phrase mate. There is no working class. There is the elite group and the rest of us who are just trying to live happy, decent lives across a wide spectrum of ethnicity, background, education and wealth. This new bill attacks everyone and would be dangerous under a right, centre or left wing government as it gives the Home Secretary ultimate power to decide what she/he likes or doesn't like, make it law and have the police execute their will.

Miners, anti brexit, pro fox hunting/countryside, nurses that want to protest, women against violence against women, all potential targets for the new bill. In fact any group or gathering that 'make too much noise' in the opinion of the police could be banned.

Its fucking disgraceful. I sincerely hope that people protest against it - better be quick though or they will be too late.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
You know how I dislike that phrase mate. There is no working class. There is the elite group and the rest of us who are just trying to live happy, decent lives across a wide spectrum of ethnicity, background, education and wealth. This new bill attacks everyone and would be dangerous under a right, centre or left wing government as it gives the Home Secretary ultimate power to decide what she/he likes or doesn't like, make it law and have the police execute their will.

Miners, anti brexit, pro fox hunting/countryside, nurses that want to protest, women against violence against women, all potential targets for the new bill. In fact any group or gathering that 'make too much noise' in the opinion of the police could be banned.

Its fucking disgraceful. I sincerely hope that people protest against it - better be quick though or they will be too late.
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The majority get the country they deserve
 
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