A thread about protesters

Chippy_boy being Chippy_boy again. Thick as mince, as Mr Shears was so right to point out.
What gives you the right to take the piss out of a disability? Makes me fucking sick - just because some of us are not in a wheelchair or otherwise outwardly wearing our disability like a badge you seem to think it's open season on our mental disability.
 
'kin clueless - defending the indefensible - I'll get you a booking on Fighting Talk
I do accept she may have been punched but I believe in looking at things from different perspectives to form my own opinion. I do not believe everything sent as a tweet, you tubed or what ever therefore I will not join in the mass hysteria alleging she was punched.
 
I do accept she may have been punched but I believe in looking at things from different perspectives to form my own opinion. I do not believe everything sent as a tweet, you tubed or what ever therefore I will not join in the mass hysteria alleging she was punched.
I'm disapointed that you do not give more credence to twitter and youtube. Surely the way to form a balanced view is to just follow people on there that you like and already agree with then posting their stuff as proof that your own views are correct?
 
I'm disapointed that you do not give more credence to twitter and youtube. Surely the way to form a balanced view is to just follow people on there that you like and already agree with then posting their stuff as proof that your own views are correct?
Not just follow people on there that you like and already agree with, but to be utterly lost in a maze of that kind of thing to the point that your entire worldview is warped towards and trapped in that one way of thinking so much so you can’t get out and are rarely exposed to any other viewpoints. And when you are you panic like fuck and start brandishing “fascist” about like it’s normal.

It’s such a healthy way to live, it’s not extremist in any way whatsoever, it’s so balanced that I don’t know why everyone doesn’t try to get trapped in these crackpot mazes.
 
I have no daily gripes either, which fortunately frees up my time to express concern at the scenes of excessive police violence to members of the public or the police lying in public statements over their level of ‘injuries’.

But you are transparent, Bob. Your very first comments on this thread reveals what your "indignation" is really all about:

"The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests".

Of course that comment is absolute nonsense, we know that. No western government, least of all our own has a "desire to stop all protests". Of course not, that's tripe, patently.

But it blows your cover. The protesters in your mind are valiant crusaders, fighting against the government which you so very clearly despise. Anything goes in that respect. Illegal protests? Fine. Refusing to cooperate with the police, to move on etc? Fine. And the police trying to contain a difficult situation just days after rioting and arguably attempted murders? And you take the side of the protesters. Well what a surprise.
 
I'm disapointed that you do not give more credence to twitter and youtube. Surely the way to form a balanced view is to just follow people on there that you like and already agree with then posting their stuff as proof that your own views are correct?
True and as I have always liked your views is it OK if I follow you.






Everywhere
 
Yep really can't believe people on here supporting these rioters
Rioters?

Seriously? What riot?

I take the point about the protests breaking lockdown - but even our next queen did that to protest last week - but (and I wasn't there) what was the argument for wading in (sorry - deciding the protest had gone on long enough)? No shops or pubs open, no-one there who didn't want to be there. I've not seen footage of how many people had been there who had already dispersed but I guess by then the police outnumbered the rump of protestors.

I fear we are close to looking at police out of control, like the Battle of the Beanfield, where the landowner (a peer of the realm) said "I'm watching the police run amuck".

At the very best, it was not exactly an attempt to de-escalate the situation, was it?
 
Rioters?

Seriously? What riot?

I take the point about the protests breaking lockdown - but even our next queen did that to protest last week - but (and I wasn't there) what was the argument for wading in (sorry - deciding the protest had gone on long enough)? No shops or pubs open, no-one there who didn't want to be there. I've not seen footage of how many people had been there who had already dispersed but I guess by then the police outnumbered the rump of protestors.

I fear we are close to looking at police out of control, like the Battle of the Beanfield, where the landowner (a peer of the realm) said "I'm watching the police run amuck".

At the very best, it was not exactly an attempt to de-escalate the situation, was it?
Of course everyone goes about their peaceful business with flares and fireworks in their pockets just in case a vicious horse attacks them.
 
Rioters?

Seriously? What riot?

I take the point about the protests breaking lockdown - but even our next queen did that to protest last week - but (and I wasn't there) what was the argument for wading in (sorry - deciding the protest had gone on long enough)? No shops or pubs open, no-one there who didn't want to be there. I've not seen footage of how many people had been there who had already dispersed but I guess by then the police outnumbered the rump of protestors.

I fear we are close to looking at police out of control, like the Battle of the Beanfield, where the landowner (a peer of the realm) said "I'm watching the police run amuck".

At the very best, it was not exactly an attempt to de-escalate the situation, was it?
Hard to say I suppose without being there. It's likely that the police make mistakes and some of them are just twats as is the case in any workplace / profession,but also true that there will be an element of twats within an otherwise peaceful protest.
 
But you are transparent, Bob. Your very first comments on this thread reveals what your "indignation" is really all about:

"The Govt doesn’t like protests and certainly didn’t like the BLM and Extinction Rev protests, hence this desire to stop all protests".

Of course that comment is absolute nonsense, we know that. No western government, least of all our own has a "desire to stop all protests". Of course not, that's tripe, patently.

But it blows your cover. The protesters in your mind are valiant crusaders, fighting against the government which you so very clearly despise. Anything goes in that respect. Illegal protests? Fine. Refusing to cooperate with the police, to move on etc? Fine. And the police trying to contain a difficult situation just days after rioting and arguably attempted murders? And you take the side of the protesters. Well what a surprise.

I‘m not convinced my ‘cover is blown’ if to blow that cover all you had to do is refer to my own bleeding post. What was I doing? Hiding in plain sight? Ooh, you got me.

If the point of the bill is not to restrict the right to protest by making it absurdly easy to ban a protest because someone shouted a bit too loudly, then it can simply withdraw the bill and rely on the law as it now stands. I mean if it the new laws are already going to make no difference then why bother, right?

The protest was peaceful until the police start demanding they disperse and when a minority don’t or are slow to do so, then comes the shoving, then the batons and the dogs and the horses and some people react and, well fuck me, it kicks off. Didn’t see that coming.

Glorifying police violence, excusing police violence will just lead to more police violence and that the perpetrator is wearing a uniform does not make it right. Pretending it didn’t happen, pretending the police were seriously injured last time around, refusing to accept footage of people being beaten by police is shutting your eyes and your mind.

I don’t accept the double standards that are being applied, nor do I accept the weasel words trying to justify police actions or the police statements on the protests after they have been obliged to retract their lies after the previous unrest.
 

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