A thread about protesters

Their right to be enraged doesn't trump the right of someone getting to hospital in an ambulance without some silly **** blocking the road.

Seriously, is every road in Britain chock full of ambulances or people trying to get to hospital to see dying relatives?

I note there was a report the other week stating that ambulance waiting times are at an all time high causing distress and deaths and yet not a peep out of people on here stressing and foaming at the mouth over a few road sit-in protests and crying arsing about ‘ambulances’.
 
Seriously, is every road in Britain chock full of ambulances or people trying to get to hospital to see dying relatives?

I note there was a report the other week stating that ambulance waiting times are at an all time high causing distress and deaths and yet not a peep out of people on here stressing and foaming at the mouth over a few road sit-in protests and crying arsing about ‘ambulances’.
Blocking some of the busiest roads in the country is counterproductive to the ongoing emergency services crisis, is it not? We’re still in the middle of a serious pandemic and services are stretched and it’s often a difference of minutes/even seconds that can save lives. Blocking an ambulance getting through is the biggest cunts trick going.
 
Seriously, is every road in Britain chock full of ambulances or people trying to get to hospital to see dying relatives?

I note there was a report the other week stating that ambulance waiting times are at an all time high causing distress and deaths and yet not a peep out of people on here stressing and foaming at the mouth over a few road sit-in protests and crying arsing about ‘ambulances’.

Exactly!

If you want to get stressed and foam at the mouth at least do it about a possible 5 min delay at a border post
 
Seriously, is every road in Britain chock full of ambulances or people trying to get to hospital to see dying relatives?

I note there was a report the other week stating that ambulance waiting times are at an all time high causing distress and deaths and yet not a peep out of people on here stressing and foaming at the mouth over a few road sit-in protests and crying arsing about ‘ambulances’.
How about I illegally block these protesters from leaving their homes?

Would that be acceptable in your eyes as a counter-protest because with your logic I don't see the difference?
 
I was enraged when I learned they had stopped ambulances and relatives of those in ambulances, following behind, from getting through. I’d have more sympathy if they had a policy and plan to let emergency services through, that definitely worked.
I'm glad you were enraged.
 
You’d change your tune if a close relative died because their ambulance couldn’t get through.

I might be upset that the ambulance didn't go another way. I might be upset that after decades it has come to this so I could be angry with those responsible.

If you like show me your data for dead folk caused by protesters then I will show you some on deaths and other stuff from the inaction of human beings.

You won't mind because you are deflecting with hilarious bullshit.

Maybe mention a Chinese road as well.

Pmsl.
 
You’d change your tune if a close relative died because their ambulance couldn’t get through.
Seeing as though they would have a 12 hour wait lying in the back of an ambulance when they get to A&E, maybe we can find a compromise.

How about the protesters triaging the patient in the ambulance on the way? It might save their life.
 
I'm glad you were enraged.
Only at the ambulances being blocked. A particularly sorry sight was the woman crying and pleading with them because she couldn’t get through to the hospital to see her seriously ill mother, who was at risk of dying in the immediate future. They still didn’t allow her through and tried selling their reasons to her, when all she wanted to see her mother in hospital.
 
Seeing as though they would have a 12 hour wait lying in the back of an ambulance when they get to A&E, maybe we can find a compromise.

How about the protesters triaging the patient in the ambulance on the way? It might save their life.
You’ve obviously never experienced being in the back of an ambulance and arriving at a hospital when a loved one is in a critical condition. They don’t leave you in A&E.
 
You’ve obviously never experienced being in the back of an ambulance and arriving at a hospital when a loved one is in a critical condition. They don’t leave you in A&E.
You’d be lucky if an ambulance arrived at their house in time at the moment.

It‘s a moot point really anyway.

When you attach emotional involvement to anything, you cannot debate with balance.
 
I might be upset that the ambulance didn't go another way. I might be upset that after decades it has come to this so I could be angry with those responsible.

If you like show me your data for dead folk caused by protesters then I will show you some on deaths and other stuff from the inaction of human beings.

You won't mind because you are deflecting with hilarious bullshit.

Maybe mention a Chinese road as well.

Pmsl.
How can they go another way when they’re stuck in a traffic jam that wasn’t there when they chose that route?

Here’s a prime example:
A mum has been left partially paralysed after protests on the M25 delayed her trip to hospital by six hours.

The woman was rushed to hospital by her son Chris after she suffered what paramedics thought was a stroke.

Chris took it upon himself to drive her to the hospital because of ambulance delays and the on-site doctor being hit with severe delays due to traffic.
But he was stuck on the M25 for six hours due to delays caused by the Insulate Britain protests.
He told LBC: "I was caught for about six hours in traffic. I was doing a mission of mercy to help my mother.”
Chris added: "I was there with my mother for six hours watching her slip away, and I could do nothing.


"When we got her to the hospital, the doctors said if we were to have gotten to them within 90 minutes, her symptoms, her recovery would have been minimal."

"Because she'd been left to endure a stroke for six hours she's got complete paralysis now down her left side"

"I am so angry and so upset – this didn't need to happen", he added.
 
You’d be lucky if an ambulance arrived at their house in time at the moment.

It‘s a moot point really anyway.

When you attach emotional involvement to anything, you cannot debate with balance.
How is it a moot point? It’s a serious point that people won’t be able to receive medical response and get to hospitals because of these protests. Those protesting are attaching emotion to their cause, as are you debating it. Of course it’s going to cause emotion when you see human suffering, you’d be a bastard not to be emotional.
 
They call themselves Insulate Britain. It’s two main aims are:

- The government should fund the insulation of all social housing by 2025

- A "legally-binding national plan" for a low energy and low carbon retrofit of all homes in Britain by 2030.


Apparently, these aims are the face of anarchy in Britain today. I would paste a link to their website, but Ric may find himself on a watchlist. Can’t be too careful and all that.
Which really does shows they are clueless, there has been a mandatory thermal comfort part of Decent Homes Standard since 2010, and that tenure has by far the best energy efficiency standards.
 
How is it a moot point? It’s a serious point that people won’t be able to receive medical response and get to hospitals because of these protests. Those protesting are attaching emotion to their cause, as are you debating it. Of course it’s going to cause emotion when you see human suffering, you’d be a bastard not to be emotional.
You’ve just quoted one person being affected by the protesters.

In the example, the man didn’t use a sat nav, which would have shown the congestion and could no doubt have used a different route.

It is a good example of not having an ambulance available to him either, so he had to take her herself. If he didn’t ring for an ambulance, then he‘s stopped her receiving treatment on the way by paramedics.

How many people die from pollution and climate change a year?

How many people have had their journey to A&E lengthened by these protests?
 
You’ve just quoted one person being affected by the protesters.

In the example, the man didn’t use a sat nav, which would have shown the congestion and could no doubt have used a different route.

It is a good example of not having an ambulance available to him either, so he had to take her herself. If he didn’t ring for an ambulance, then he‘s stopped her receiving treatment on the way by paramedics.

How many people die from pollution and climate change a year?

How many people have had their journey to A&E lengthened by these protests?
The article states the ambulances were delayed due to the traffic too and couldn’t get there in time so he decided to drive as it was urgent. Have you navigated around the M25? It’s a shitter because there aren’t a lot of other options if it’s gridlocked, one of the reason the protesters chose it.

Pollution isn’t really what they’re protesting about in this case are they?

The argument several people here are making isn’t against the actual aims of these protests, it’s the method in which they’ve chosen, which puts lives at risk and has turned the public away.

What have they achieved? I’d say it’s put them in a position where change is less likely now, because the public cannot stand them.

Whatever way we choose to do something about climate change, risking lives right now should not be on the menu.
 
Seriously, is every road in Britain chock full of ambulances or people trying to get to hospital to see dying relatives?

I note there was a report the other week stating that ambulance waiting times are at an all time high causing distress and deaths and yet not a peep out of people on here stressing and foaming at the mouth over a few road sit-in protests and crying arsing about ‘ambulances’.


I know, fancy getting annoyed that your dying relative can't get to hospital because some self appointed fuckwhit has decided that getting your loft insulated is more important.

This is a thread about protests, not ambulance waiting times, so why would we be "foaming at the mouth" about that on this thread?

Most of the major roads near to hospitals are chock full of ambulances funnily enough!
 
The article states the ambulances were delayed due to the traffic too and couldn’t get there in time so he decided to drive as it was urgent. Have you navigated around the M25? It’s a shitter because there aren’t a lot of other options if it’s gridlocked, one of the reason the protesters chose it.

Pollution isn’t really what they’re protesting about in this case are they?

The argument several people here are making isn’t against the actual aims of these protests, it’s the method in which they’ve chosen, which puts lives at risk and has turned the public away.

What have they achieved? I’d say it’s put them in a position where change is less likely now, because the public cannot stand them.

Whatever way we choose to do something about climate change, risking lives right now should not be on the menu.
So you have no idea how many ambulances have been held up?
 

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