A total overhaul is needed.

leighton

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I hate to be negative and post negative topics but in Europe we are a laughing stock lets be honest. We have a team that is capable of so fucking much more but they offer fuck all its laughable at times. In this champions league we have done fuck all 2 points yet we can still if we win both of our 2 remaining games get into the knock out stages. The tatics we dont seem to have a plan b never mind a c or d. We play our way and hope to out score teams. Its great to watch when were winning but when were losing its a kick in the balls at the simple things were the team is just not interested in doing the nasty stuff.

Over the 4 games so far we havnt got into the other teams faces the midfield dont close down quick enough. Yaya is a luxury player that on his day can win the game but the majority of these games he has been the biggest let down. The key players just dont do it this season loss of form or just thinking they can just show up to beat teams but we dont learn from our mistakes.

Looking at the defence in Europe. Hart is ok and not a lot he could do about the majority of goals he conceded he will be my keeper to keep.
Then the fullbacks the once best right back in the league is showing signs of decline. Zaba just aint cutting and is getting caught out of position at times, I hope its just a blip but we all know how good Zaba is but there is just something not right with him. Clichy and Kolarov both can be hit and miss but tonight from Clichy he fucked up badly from a senior player he didnt preform at all and was laughable.

Who to partner Kompany. Thats the biggest fuck up MDM or Mangala both have looked dodgy both have pluses and negatives to there games but if Kompany is injured during the season I will be praying that these 2 can defend. The art of defending is gone. I look at how poor some players have played and yet no changes or bringing back players into the squad Nasty should be reintroduced into the squad and given a chance before we splash more cash on another player.

Midfield Yaya brainless tonight to get sent off like Fernadhino. Both players look a shell of last season its scary to think that this was the squad that won the league last season. No leader in the midfield but I hate to say this team needs a major changes to the midfield for them to get the right balance. Hopefully for the next game Lampard is back and his experience will help us. We need him more than any player to show these players how to play in champions league.

Forward area apart from Aguero we have 2 strikers in Dzeko and Jovetic whos confidence seems to be shot. Dzeko ended the season brilliantly last season. But with the loss of letting The Beast go back to Spain we lack another option up front. Negredo was that option but losing him and not replacing him for whatever reason seems to be a bad decision. I know FFP has some part to play in it. But at times last season he was the spark that got us going if Kun doesnt do it its hard to see who does if Silva is out.

I hope MP can change things around for the better the jury will be out. He is now under the most pressure he has ever been on. To take a relative good defence and ruin it and be so open and see how we defend now compared to Mancini days its hard to take and understand what went wrong. I thought he would of got the right mix of defence and attacking by now but it still a fair bit away to get that balance right.
 
Backsides need kicking.

Players taking to Twitter to apologise and say we're still in it. Well why not for once just turn up and perform and prove it on the pitch? All mouth. There's a lot of very experienced players in Europe, but they are not top players until they perform as a team in Europe and yet again they humiliate the club and its supporters. Do they care? I think they do? I hope they do.

I am worried what impact this will have on our domestic season. Games like that can destroy a team, but we've seen this quite a few times now.

I'm just shocked that once again this has happened. How many times? CSKA, Ajax etc. These teams are poor. They're not even mid-table standard.
 
I simply think our style is incompatible with Europe and we need to change to a quicker and more intense style - which in turn will require more money spent and maybe an academy wildcard thrown into the squad like Pozo. We should look for both a top winger and a tireless technician in central midfield - Reus and Koke (also a monster with set-piece taking) would be my armchair fantasy signings.

The kids play the right way in the U19 league.
 
Aguero, Silva and Kompany and Zaba are our mainstays in the team and 3 out of the 4 have extended their contracts in the summer. Nasri has signed a long term deal but I doubt he will be here for the long haul. There are contract offers for the likes of Hart and Milner both haven't put pen to paper yet and there are question marks on whether they are consistent or have enough quality to take us to the next level to. The rest can be replaced but they still have time to prove they want to be part of the club. Our EDS will play a significant part of our future but that will not happen overnight.
 
The kids are they ready to go into that team?? I think its time for the players and the management to sit down and be honest they are paid huge amount of money there not doing it. Were City we have bought big before we will buy big again and if they dont have the heart to battle for a place in the team and show there worth then show them the door. The passing is rubbish as well this season at times we cant do the simple things right. We are going like Arsenal were we are over playing it and hoping to score the prefect goal at times. now and again just shooting will be better from time to time something different. My head is fried with all this rubbish of tonight time for some zzz.
 
LoveCity said:
I simply think our style is incompatible with Europe and we need to change to a quicker and more intense style - which in turn will require more money spent and maybe an academy wildcard thrown into the squad like Pozo. We should look for both a top winger and a tireless technician in central midfield - Reus and Koke (also a monster with set-piece taking) would be my armchair fantasy signings.

The kids play the right way in the U19 league.

Perhaps Pelle can learn from Paddy V.
 
oakiecokie said:
LoveCity said:
I simply think our style is incompatible with Europe and we need to change to a quicker and more intense style - which in turn will require more money spent and maybe an academy wildcard thrown into the squad like Pozo. We should look for both a top winger and a tireless technician in central midfield - Reus and Koke (also a monster with set-piece taking) would be my armchair fantasy signings.

The kids play the right way in the U19 league.

Perhaps Pelle can learn from Paddy V.

I doubt that oakie. Pellers may be failing at our club but he has been further in the Champions League at two clubs who are supposedly smaller than us.
 
LoveCity said:
I simply think our style is incompatible with Europe and we need to change to a quicker and more intense style - which in turn will require more money spent and maybe an academy wildcard thrown into the squad like Pozo. We should look for both a top winger and a tireless technician in central midfield - Reus and Koke (also a monster with set-piece taking) would be my armchair fantasy signings.

The kids play the right way in the U19 league.
We need to be far more direct. I am not talking about smashing it up to Dzeko every time, but we are far too slow going forward, the build up play is too slow and at times looks incredibly laboured and rigid, no fluidity to it. Pellegrini seems to think he can stick with it and it will come good, but the proof is in the pudding. We have struggled playing like this in the champions league for the last 4 years. Only in games like against Bayern away where we won and were playing fast counter attacking football did we look good.
 

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