A UK national football team

sam the drummer said:
Dr.Faustus said:
That particular team I have never understood. The UK is a country and sovereign state constituted of 4 countries that individually are not sovereign states; England, Wales, Scotland and N. Ireland. Great Britain is merely a name for an island which contains England, Wales and Scotland, it has no constitution of its own accord and is not a sovereign state, why therefore do athletes represent an island (GB) and not a sovereign state (UK) in the olympics?

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) has determined that the letters GB are to be used to refer to Great Britain in respect of the Olympic Games.

This is very much in line with the official use of GB with regard to the European identification letters for this country....just as F is used for France singly, D for Germany, NL - the Netherlands, E for Spain (Espana), P (Portugal) PL (Poland) N (Norway) I (Italy) CH (Switzerland - referring to the old Helvetia) and SF (for Finland - Suomi Finland) and so on and so on for all the rest of the countries of Europe.

Just look at the little EU blue emblem with the circle of yellow stars alongside your car registration number and you will see GB right in the middle of the circle, not UK....assuming that your vehicle is registered in the UK of course. Offshore islands such as the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey display GBM, GBJ and GBG respectively on the EU number plates, as competitors from these islands are eligible for inclusion in Team GB.

GB is the official IOC id reference to the country of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, even though the absolute correct title should be the United Kingdom (look at your British passport and it will be headed "European Union - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" - as the Irish Province of Ulster (NI) falls under the jurisdiction of the British Crown.

Ah, thanks for the detailed response- I understood the inter-relationships between the countries and jurisdictions, however I didn't know that the IOC had seemingly archaic referencing system.
 
That will never happen. I think a Ireland team could happen before a UK team. With the South taking the some of the Norths young players there has been cases brought by the North to the courts over this but the courts have favoured the South. Just for that reason I can see FIFA calling both aside and telling them to team up together. Ireland is a united country in most sports apart from football.
 
leighton said:
That will never happen. I think a Ireland team could happen before a UK team. With the South taking the some of the Norths young players there has been cases brought by the North to the courts over this but the courts have favoured the South. Just for that reason I can see FIFA calling both aside and telling them to team up together. Ireland is a united country in most sports apart from football.
Not a hope in hell
 
UlsterCitizen said:
leighton said:
That will never happen. I think a Ireland team could happen before a UK team. With the South taking the some of the Norths young players there has been cases brought by the North to the courts over this but the courts have favoured the South. Just for that reason I can see FIFA calling both aside and telling them to team up together. Ireland is a united country in most sports apart from football.
Not a hope in hell

I agree with you, there is no chance of that happening in the foreseeable future. A single league though is a possibility and would make a lot of sense for clubs on both sides of the border.
 
UlsterCitizen said:
depps said:
I agree with you, there is no chance of that happening in the foreseeable future. A single league though is a possibility and would make a lot of sense for clubs on both sides of the border.
Need to be run better than the Santa Clause Cup

True, but in the long term its probably the only way for either league to grow. Really we should be able to sustain a league as strong as the SPL but instead we have two leagues that are financially around the same level as the Conference.
 
depps said:
UlsterCitizen said:
Need to be run better than the Santa Clause Cup

True, but in the long term its probably the only way for either league to grow. Really we should be able to sustain a league as strong as the SPL but instead we have two leagues that are financially around the same level as the Conference.

If they do a single league the next step is a single FA and 1 team from Ireland. The Good Friday argeement is giving the players from the North a chance to declare for the South so I would rather have a Ireland team over the 2 on hole. Rotate the games from Dublin and Belfast if they get a stadium or is the Maze still getting the go ahead or not?
 
depps said:
UlsterCitizen said:
Need to be run better than the Santa Clause Cup

True, but in the long term its probably the only way for either league to grow. Really we should be able to sustain a league as strong as the SPL but instead we have two leagues that are financially around the same level as the Conference.
I worked for one of the 4 irish league clubs who were invited to join an all ireland league about 3 years ago, and the figures didnt stack up at that time. With Derrys financial implosion and other southern clubs in severe financial trouble I supect the idea is dead for the foreseeable future
 
leighton said:
depps said:
True, but in the long term its probably the only way for either league to grow. Really we should be able to sustain a league as strong as the SPL but instead we have two leagues that are financially around the same level as the Conference.

If they do a single league the next step is a single FA and 1 team from Ireland. The Good Friday argeement is giving the players from the North a chance to declare for the South so I would rather have a Ireland team over the 2 on hole. Rotate the games from Dublin and Belfast if they get a stadium or is the Maze still getting the go ahead or not?

You might rather have an All-Ireland team Leighton, as would I, but I doubt the majority of Northern Irish football fans feel the same.<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:02 pm --<br /><br />
UlsterCitizen said:
depps said:
True, but in the long term its probably the only way for either league to grow. Really we should be able to sustain a league as strong as the SPL but instead we have two leagues that are financially around the same level as the Conference.
I worked for one of the 4 irish league clubs who were invited to join an all ireland league about 3 years ago, and the figures didnt stack up at that time. With Derrys financial implosion and other southern clubs in severe financial trouble I supect the idea is dead for the foreseeable future

Is this the Platinum One proposal you are talking about? Weren't they offering a huge increase in prize money? That coupled with more lucrative sponsorship deals and higher attendances (at least in the beginning) would have made it a no brainer for the clubs, I would have thought? I thought it was the FAs rather than the clubs that had stopped it from happening?
 

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