A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps.

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RIP to all the victims, I was in Barcelona airport on the same day after attending the City + El Clasico games....
 
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basokla said:
west didsblue said:
basokla said:
Good response. I'd say let's let the facts come out.

As for older aircraft, give me a properly maintained 20-yr old Boeing 737 any day of the week.

Why?

Probably because I have a friend that is a commercial pilot with over 15,000 hours of flight time. He said if he had to pick any plane to fly it would be a 737. Two things in particular that I remember were:

First, he said the plane had a great safety record beginning with the "500 series" versions. I remember looking at the time at some online data about deadly accidents per flight of different aircraft. The 737 rate was extremely low and seemed to back up his claim.

Second, he said it is a well-balanced plane that is easy to fly. Also said it is a very forgiving plane for pilots with less experience.

He flew our company jet and I flew with him many times. After seeing how he operates I guess I just trust his judgment.
Fair enough. As you say the B737 does have a good safety record, particularly the newer versions. However the A320 safety record is slightly better with 0.23 losses per million flights compared to 0.27 for the B737 if you compare the newer versions. The safety record of older B737s wasn't actually that good but it has been in service since the 60s and there have been major improvements since the earliest versions.
 
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They are starting to analyse the voice recorder and are saying they hear voices throughout and that it appears the plane did not suffer a drop in pressure. Looking like it's a weird one.
 
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acquiesce said:
They are starting to analyse the voice recorder and are saying they hear voices throughout and that it appears the plane did not suffer a drop in pressure. Looking like it's a weird one.

very strange if that's the case because the automatic 'pull up pull up' would have sounded as they dropped altitude, i'm beginning to think failure in the tail stabilizer and this is why they lost altitude and did not turn direction
 
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Most likely too early but.

i watched a bit on the TV last night where the king of Spain was making his speech, have to say his missus is much better looking than our queen.
 
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cleavers said:
blue underpants said:
Eamonn Holmes on Sky is chuddering on that he thinks the aircraft ran out of fuel as there was hardly any smoke from the crash site!
Hahaha, does he think they forgot to refuel it in Barcelona ?

Air Canada 143 "The Gimli Glider"

Ran out of fuel due to differences between use of metric and imperial measures
 
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Cheesy said:
There's something a little weird about how the plane flew in a straight line during its rapid descent, seemingly after it had squawked emergency. Emergency decompression? Pilot suicide? Even a complete engine failure should have allowed some sort of control & communication. Strange.

Some reports saying that someone was locked out of the cockpit and was trying to get back in during the descent.
 
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Cheesy said:
Cheesy said:
There's something a little weird about how the plane flew in a straight line during its rapid descent, seemingly after it had squawked emergency. Emergency decompression? Pilot suicide? Even a complete engine failure should have allowed some sort of control & communication. Strange.

Some reports saying that someone was locked out of the cockpit and was trying to get back in during the descent.
Where are these reports?. If it was a suicidal pilot wouldn't the descent be more dramatic, If you are suicidal pilot I'd imagine you just nose dive it as quick as possible
 
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Wio Gumflapdinand said:
Cheesy said:
Cheesy said:
There's something a little weird about how the plane flew in a straight line during its rapid descent, seemingly after it had squawked emergency. Emergency decompression? Pilot suicide? Even a complete engine failure should have allowed some sort of control & communication. Strange.

Some reports saying that someone was locked out of the cockpit and was trying to get back in during the descent.
Where are these reports?. If it was a suicidal pilot wouldn't the descent be more dramatic, If you are suicidal pilot I'd imagine you just nose dive it as quick as possible

It was mentioned on Sky News channel. Just hope it's nothing like this as that would be even more tragic :(
 

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