A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps.

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PARIS — As officials struggled Wednesday to explain why a jet with 150 people on board crashed in relatively clear skies, an investigator said evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in.

A senior military official involved in the investigation described “very smooth, very cool” conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight from Barcelona to Düsseldorf. Then the audio indicated that one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter.

“The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” the investigator said. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”

He said, “You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.”

 

[route46]

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is it possible.....pilot 1 leave cockpits....pilot 2 has heart attack/faints stumbles into descend button??

if that's not the case and the report of the pilot trying to re-enter the cockpit is true it can only be pilot suicide

 

[BlueBearBoots]

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How completely awful if true - no details of the pilots, crew have been released yet have they?

 

[inbetween]

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Judging on the reports this morning, crucially, the 320 door does not lock when it is closed, protocol never allows for pilots to lock themselves out say by accident because of the door locking itself. Obviously sinister means are not accounted for because the whole point of the locked door is to stop anyone getting in from the outside. This also includes a lack of a failsafe where even the cabin crew cannot get in even if under duress from a hijack.

Chillingly, this means that the pilot inside must of locked it from the inside as the other left, no doubt about it.

 

[DelToro]

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Judging on the reports this morning, crucially, the 320 door does not lock when it is closed, protocol never allows for pilots to lock themselves out say by accident because of the door locking itself. Obviously sinister means are not accounted for because the whole point of the locked door is to stop anyone getting in from the outside. This also includes a lack of a failsafe where even the cabin crew cannot get in even if under duress from a hijack.

Chillingly, this means that the pilot inside must of locked it from the inside as the other left, no doubt about it.

I would have thought that it was protocol for the door to be always locked except when entering or leaving the cockpit.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

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Ok kill yourself if that's what you want to do but to take 150 innocent people with you is just despicable for me. This now seems like the only reason. unless one of the pilots is a supporter of terror.

I've got to say I don't like it when the one of the crew leave the cockpit especially when it seems it is just to have a chat with a stewardess!

After the Malaysian one and now this, i'm sure new rules will be coming into play although if one pilot wants to do it, i'm not really sure how easy it would be for someone to stop him.

Those last 8 minutes must have been absolutely terrifying for those people on board and so many were children.

 

[Ducado]

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Judging on the reports this morning, crucially, the 320 door does not lock when it is closed, protocol never allows for pilots to lock themselves out say by accident because of the door locking itself. Obviously sinister means are not accounted for because the whole point of the locked door is to stop anyone getting in from the outside. This also includes a lack of a failsafe where even the cabin crew cannot get in even if under duress from a hijack.

Chillingly, this means that the pilot inside must of locked it from the inside as the other left, no doubt about it.

I would have thought that it was protocol for the door to be always locked except when entering or leaving the cockpit.

Same here

 

[inbetween]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Judging on the reports this morning, crucially, the 320 door does not lock when it is closed, protocol never allows for pilots to lock themselves out say by accident because of the door locking itself. Obviously sinister means are not accounted for because the whole point of the locked door is to stop anyone getting in from the outside. This also includes a lack of a failsafe where even the cabin crew cannot get in even if under duress from a hijack.

Chillingly, this means that the pilot inside must of locked it from the inside as the other left, no doubt about it.

I would have thought that it was protocol for the door to be always locked except when entering or leaving the cockpit.

On flights like this I doubt it, the door would remain locked certainly but then for a pilot to leave for say a 2/3 minute toilet break it would probably stay unlocked for that period. The door can only be locked from the inside so it would be quite unnatural to lock it for such a short period leaving someone alone in there. I guess it depends on the airline but really it is irrelevant anyway, the second the other pilot left it was clearly locked either way.

It seems the other pilot left, an unplanned descent was initiated and the other pilot realized and wanted to get in. At this point the other pilot is either doing this himself or he is incapacitated but then why would the plane descend if he was incapacitated. The descent must of been a pilot action and also the A320 door unlocks itself in a decompression so a decompression obviously did not happen.

It has to be suicide I'm afraid. I really can't imagine what the families are going through.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

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There is a way for someone to unlock the door from outside but it can be overridden from inside.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

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So we've potentially got two pilot suicides within the past 12 months. What a twats trick to take hundreds of people with you.