A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps.

[EalingBlue2]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Has this 'suicidal' pilot been named yet?

Don't think so. You will have to keep praying that his surname is Ameen or Hashem (or some other similar name) for a bit longer.

As an atheist, I don't pray ... but I am sure if what you say turns out to be the case, you will excuse his actions ...

Andreas lubitz

 

[EalingBlue2]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

I don't see how control from the ground would be possible or preferable would allow rogue hackers, mentally unstable ground staff or rogue governments to bring down multiple jets at one time with no danger to themselves.

System would be standalone and activated only when it receives orders from the remote system. You could have this mechanically locked out until the plane is airborne so only a jet escorting it could possibly connect. Signal spread of 1000m or summat should be enough.

Main issue would be having trained commercial pilots dotted around just sat on their arse waiting for an emergency.

You would have to have jets in the air flying everywhere, you might have 5 minutes to get on board, take off, fly 300 kms take over a plane and save it if this wasn't the case.

 

[west didsblue]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

From 2013

http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is recognizing Andreas Guenter Lubitz with inclusion in the prestigious FAA Airmen Certification Database.

The database, which appears on the agency's website at <a class="postlink" href="http://www.faa.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.faa.gov</a>, names Lubitz and other certified pilots who have met or exceeded the high educational, licensing and medical standards established by the FAA.

I think he might be taken off that database soon.

 

[TCIB]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

I don't see how control from the ground would be possible or preferable would allow rogue hackers, mentally unstable ground staff or rogue governments to bring down multiple jets at one time with no danger to themselves.

System would be standalone and activated only when it receives orders from the remote system. You could have this mechanically locked out until the plane is airborne so only a jet escorting it could possibly connect. Signal spread of 1000m or summat should be enough.

Main issue would be having trained commercial pilots dotted around just sat on their arse waiting for an emergency.

You would have to have jets in the air flying everywhere, you might have 5 minutes to get on board, take off, fly 300 kms take over a plane and save it if this wasn't the case.

Yeah it is not ideal, maybe some program can be made that has a kill switch in it. If it notices diversions not authorized by ground control then they hit the button. This would auto pilot back to the original flight path. This would give time maybe to scramble a jet.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

The A320 does have a terrain display but not a radar, when activated the local terrain is imposed on the main navigation display. It does it by use of a database of the world containing height information - the plane already knows it's position by GPS and it's altitude so it can figure where it is in relation to terrain in real time. It also has the old radio altimeter which triggers the voiced GPWS alerts to warn of imminent terrain threats as it gets closer to the ground. These alerts I'm sure will certainly be heard on the voice recordings as it approached the mountaineous areas but still the terrain aspect of the GPWS can be turned off which is the norm for example during airshow displays or any planned low altitude maneuvers.

Fly-by-wire is much better now and the gold standard. I know of many pilots who made the switch from Boeing to Airbus and they swear by it. I even know an A380 pilot for BA who says the A380 is the best he has ever flown, someone who flew for the military for yonks and also was brought through on BA's first 747-400's.

This might interest some, especially if you like Iron Maiden! -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBABNL-DDM[/youtube]

Radar ground map mode. Desperate system.
Bollocks.
Back to your Microsoft flight sim games.

TAWS uses a database so how else can it be called a radar?

 

[west didsblue]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

The A320 does have a terrain display but not a radar, when activated the local terrain is imposed on the main navigation display. It does it by use of a database of the world containing height information - the plane already knows it's position by GPS and it's altitude so it can figure where it is in relation to terrain in real time. It also has the old radio altimeter which triggers the voiced GPWS alerts to warn of imminent terrain threats as it gets closer to the ground. These alerts I'm sure will certainly be heard on the voice recordings as it approached the mountaineous areas but still the terrain aspect of the GPWS can be turned off which is the norm for example during airshow displays or any planned low altitude maneuvers.

Fly-by-wire is much better now and the gold standard. I know of many pilots who made the switch from Boeing to Airbus and they swear by it. I even know an A380 pilot for BA who says the A380 is the best he has ever flown, someone who flew for the military for yonks and also was brought through on BA's first 747-400's.

This might interest some, especially if you like Iron Maiden! -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBABNL-DDM[/youtube]

Bollocks.
Back to your Microsoft flight sim games.

TAWS uses a database so how else can it be called a radar?

TAWS and Wx Radar share the same display and outputs from each system can be displayed individually or together.

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Has this 'suicidal' pilot been named yet?

Don't think so. You will have to keep praying that his surname is Ameen or Hashem (or some other similar name) for a bit longer.

As an atheist, I don't pray ... but I am sure if what you say turns out to be the case, you will excuse his actions ...

Fair point I should have said hoped and not prayed (not much point in that rubbish as you have pointed out).

And I wouldn't excuse anyone of this alleged crime regardless of who they were. There is no case for the defence in this one.

(may I recommend Xhamster to relieve the fucking hard on you must have HOPING that the pilot could have been a Muslim)

I don't really think that this is the thread for such discussion so if you would like to continue with me then may I suggest a pm (always enjoy having a chat with fellow blues)

 

[bucks]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Just read that in the U.S. and elsewhere, whenever a pilot leaves the cockpit a flight attendant goes in so there are always 2 people in there. This is not the rule on Lufthansa.

 

[tonea2003]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Just read that in the U.S. and elsewhere, whenever a pilot leaves the cockpit a flight attendant goes in so there are always 2 people in there. This is not the rule on Lufthansa.

it will be from now on i'm sure!

 

[Deleted member 58619]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Has this 'suicidal' pilot been named yet?

Mo

 

[SWP's back]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Of course you can reduce the suicide rates by not continually fucking everyone over for the last 5 years while you try and sort out the fucking mess you've made of the Group by overexpansion in your quest to dominate European aviation.

Just saying.


I'm not convinced by any of the rumours but if you go back to my first post in this thread It was a possibility and looks more likely now that this was intentional.

The fuck is that first paragraph?

 

[acquiesce]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

How fucking horrible for the passengers and crew. Imagine seeing the pilot try to desperately break down the door and then look out the window to see the land rising up towards you. Brutal.

 

[Manchester33]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

It makes it even worse for me to think that, had it been on the Thursday before, there would have been hundreds of blues on that flight making their way back towards Manchester. The flight left the same terminal at El Prat as mine coming home - just puts me off flying.

 

[Deleted member 58619]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Andreas Lubitz

Just read this and seen that co-pilot has been named

 

[scotty123]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Apparently you can hear the passengers screaming and the pilot banging on the cabin door on the tape, I feel sick just thinking about it, those poor souls, God bless them

 

[Cheesy]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

So difficult to prevent this if someone is hell-bent on taking an aircraft down. There's a dozen or so pilot suicides that are known about though fortunately most of these have not involved passenger airliners.

 

[jared]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Just read that in the U.S. and elsewhere, whenever a pilot leaves the cockpit a flight attendant goes in so there are always 2 people in there. This is not the rule on Lufthansa.

On reddit?

 

[west didsblue]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Just read that in the U.S. and elsewhere, whenever a pilot leaves the cockpit a flight attendant goes in so there are always 2 people in there. This is not the rule on Lufthansa.

I suspect that most European airlines will adopt this policy fairly soon and regulatory changes will be introduced to mandate it eventually.

 

[johnny on the spot]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

4chan are currently hunting his Facebook profile, as no doubt are Sky News.

 

[Ducado]

Re: A320 Airbus Crashes In The Alps. BBC

Don't think so. You will have to keep praying that his surname is Ameen or Hashem (or some other similar name) for a bit longer.

As an atheist, I don't pray ... but I am sure if what you say turns out to be the case, you will excuse his actions ...

Fair point I should have said hoped and not prayed (not much point in that rubbish as you have pointed out).

And I wouldn't excuse anyone of this alleged crime regardless of who they were. There is no case for the defence in this one.

(may I recommend Xhamster to relieve the fucking hard on you must have HOPING that the pilot could have been a Muslim)

I don't really think that this is the thread for such discussion so if you would like to continue with me then may I suggest a pm (always enjoy having a chat with fellow blues)

Leave it out, there is a time and place and this thread is not it