Love that fallacy on your end. I'm not defending him, just not condemning him. There's a difference. My point is that if something is clearly morally up in the air, then really it is hard for us to claim that he is a morally bad person.
He is a Sunderland player and has been for ages yet he is not being shown in his current kit but ours,no need and not at all relevant and implies he committed this offence when with us and he didn't so no need to run with him in city kit at allI would fully expect the evening news to all him a former City player - are they supposed to deny he was? Hate the paper mind.
You're right. It's an arbitrary cut-off point and other countries and cultures see things differently. So there's no global or even pan-European consensus on an appropriate age of consent. But 16 is the cut-off point in the law here. That's all that matters.
There's moral ambiguity about speed limits, drink-driving limits, drug taking and all sorts of other things. But that's not relevant, particularly when you're well aware you're breaking the law in the country you're in.
No fallacy on my part. Why is this case clearly morally up in the air? He knew she was under age and yet he carried on. You have a weird set of morals if you think it's ok to groom a young girl to have sex with her when she's under the legal age of the country you live in.
He is a Sunderland player and has been for ages yet he is not being shown in his current kit but ours,no need and not at all relevant and implies he committed this offence when with us and he didn't so no need to run with him in city kit at all
Is he a real life Jason Bent?
He comes across as thick as fuck in the court reports.
Irrespective of what the law says, i prefer to judge people on the half-your-age-plus-seven rule. That still makes him a total creep-job.
That might be the aleI don't see this as a huge issue - we are a Manchester paper people would expect to see him in City Kit rather than a Sunderland one. I am not offended. He is clearly just a thick **** who is going to suffer the consequences. His career will be over, he will go to jail and he will end up divorced and in time quite possibly skint.
Private prosecution will no doubt follow.
Knew he was shitting it - he has looked ill this last 9 months.
This - he could have had the pick of any girl above 20.
No but I expect a 28 year old man to know better and not target me for sexYes and surely the second you turned 16, you developed all the pearls of wisdom that allowed you to make the most informed decisions about guys, right? How can something be so unjustifiable at 15 yet justifiable at 16?