Adam Johnson is our 3rd best player.

why is everybody suddenly slating one of englands rising stars of the future, it probably be us fans that end up destroying a talented players carreer lets get behind him and support him.
 
I think Mancini is spot on with his assessment of AJ.

Huge talent, but if he wants to be a real success long term, he really does need to improve. Currently he provides great individual moments, flashes of skill that'll get us a goal, but it's not consistent enough.

He is not shit and he is not our 3rd best player.
 
keemcfc said:
Behind Silva and Tévez.

Just because he might be leaving everyone is starting to call him shite, when the fact is, HE IS ABSOLUTE CLASS.

He has never had a bad game for us, his last game he didn't do much, but every other game he's ever played in for us and England, he has been one of, if not THE best player on the pitch.

Someone on the 'Weiss wants City return' thread even said that Weiss is better! That's like saying Boyata is better than Kompany! He just obviously isn't.

Him and Silva are the only players we have that can cross, he's the best we have at beating his man, the only one who has the bottle to try anything special, and the skill to pull it off, and he is 5 times the player Milner has been so far.

I agree he is young and has a lot to learn, but he's already one of the best wide men in the prem and should start every match for us. He should be one of the first names on the teamsheet along with Silva, Tévez, de Jong and Hart.

Just a few weeks ago everyone on this forum was singing his praises and getting hyped up about him.

So tell me, why has everyone gone from loving him to casting him aside?

This is really starting to annoy me now, since when in the modern game has 23 been young? silva is 1 year older than him, does he have a lot to learn? no, he doesn't. Boyata is young, AJ isn't, he's the same age as Fabregas ffs!!!! he's done nothing in the past couple of months to suggest to me that he should be starting, although i do really like him. I'm not saying he's crap, or that i want him to leave, but his age cannot be used as an excuse any more!
 
This is a topic that really bothers me. Reading this thread is very difficult.

I disagree vehemently with the notion that Adam Johnson is best used as a sub or is a '20 minute player'. The logic that seems to lead people to this conclusion is backwards, in my opinion.

I guess my thesis would be that when you have a player of Johnson's skill and style, you have to understand that his brilliance is a function of opportunity. Dribbling through and around a defense to create a goal is not something that one can simply will to happen, it is a rare mixture of talent and circumstance. A lot of things need to go right and then the player needs to execute. When you confine a player like Johnson to having to pull this feat inside of 20 minutes, you're bound to be disappointed in him and find him "off form" because he hasn't zagged through defenses in a few 20 minute spells on the pitch. This then creates a self fulfilling catch-22, if such a thing exists, as the player gets fewer opportunities to create, which causes his to not create, which causes the logic of many to decide that since he's only good for a few good runs a game, he should be brought on as a sub to supply those runs late. It's just not that simple, the game may never come to him late.

The things about Johnson that seem to annoy our manager probably have more to do with off the field issues and defensive responsibility. Very, very few of us are qualified in any way to really know what we're talking about when we're speaking of Johnson's defensive abilities, and I'm not one of those people. He doesn't seem to track like Milner, but few people do, and it's very rare for someone with the flair that Johnson has to gain a reputation as a defensively responsible player, it's just something in our brains that won't let that reputation form. If he's completely derelict in his defensive duties, then I could understand the manager leaving him out of the side and it is on the player to rectify that. I suspect that it's probably a little annoyance on Mancini's part about a lot of things, but overall our manager probably prefers the consistency of Milner over Johnson, and I think that is a mistake.

I guess what I'm saying is that people seem to lack a proper appreciation for what Johnson is and does. Players come in many shapes, sizes, and varieties, and in Johnson we have one of the few who are capable of creating something from nothing, of turning a point into three or salvaging a lone point almost completely on his own. A player like that needs to be on the pitch, and he needs to be given time to find his moment, otherwise you're asking too much to expect him to compress his 90 minute impact into 20 minutes of a game that at times has already left him behind.

To speak specifically to our squad's tactics, when Johnson has come on as a sub on the right side, Silva's left footedness combined with Kolarov's immense presence has forced us to attack down the left more frequently. Truthfully, if you look at the player's latest spell of games, he's spent very little time with the ball at his feet.

edit: as far as the thread topic, 3rd best player is hyperbole, but he's probably in our top 3 attacking options, perhaps 4th behind silva, tevez, and balotelli, although if we're being honest Balotelli hasn't really demonstrated much. Very similar player, though, needs time and the ball and he'll eventually do something you can't believe you just saw.
 
He wins us penalties big time. Drives into the box. I think he has had some issues off the field and he will knuckle down. He is quality and has a bright future at City.
 
3rd best player?

Hahaha


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Nothing to do with being fickle !!!!!!!!!
Its called a reality check.
Good player without any doubt !!
Unfortunately nowhere near CONSISTANT


Nail on head...!
 
Adebayor said:
keemcfc said:
Behind Silva and Tévez.

Just because he might be leaving everyone is starting to call him shite, when the fact is, HE IS ABSOLUTE CLASS.

He has never had a bad game for us, his last game he didn't do much, but every other game he's ever played in for us and England, he has been one of, if not THE best player on the pitch.

Someone on the 'Weiss wants City return' thread even said that Weiss is better! That's like saying Boyata is better than Kompany! He just obviously isn't.

Him and Silva are the only players we have that can cross, he's the best we have at beating his man, the only one who has the bottle to try anything special, and the skill to pull it off, and he is 5 times the player Milner has been so far.

I agree he is young and has a lot to learn, but he's already one of the best wide men in the prem and should start every match for us. He should be one of the first names on the teamsheet along with Silva, Tévez, de Jong and Hart.

Just a few weeks ago everyone on this forum was singing his praises and getting hyped up about him.

So tell me, why has everyone gone from loving him to casting him aside?

This is really starting to annoy me now, since when in the modern game has 23 been young? silva is 1 year older than him, does he have a lot to learn? no, he doesn't. Boyata is young, AJ isn't, he's the same age as Fabregas ffs!!!! he's done nothing in the past couple of months to suggest to me that he should be starting, although i do really like him. I'm not saying he's crap, or that i want him to leave, but his age cannot be used as an excuse any more!
I meant it as in he needs experience...

You can't compare Silva and AJ in experience, Silva had played for Valencia before we signed him... with players like Villa, and Spain with Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/Torres/Fabregas/Puyol...The list goes on.

And the same goes for Fabregas...

AJ had played for Middlesborogh, with players like...erm...Alfonso Alves...

;)

Anyway, if Mancini is doing what he did with Silva, to AJ, then I'm on his side.

I still think AJ is our third best player (in the last half of the pitch) although I need to watch Balotelli more as he also looks tasty, but then again even he, at 2 years younger than AJ, has buckets more experience.

It all comes down to experience, and that's all AJ needs, and after reading posts on this topic, Mancini seems to be doing the right thing, as long as he starts to play him more in the future.



Oh and he is far, far, FAR more consistent than Milner...
 
keemcfc said:
Adebayor said:
This is really starting to annoy me now, since when in the modern game has 23 been young? silva is 1 year older than him, does he have a lot to learn? no, he doesn't. Boyata is young, AJ isn't, he's the same age as Fabregas ffs!!!! he's done nothing in the past couple of months to suggest to me that he should be starting, although i do really like him. I'm not saying he's crap, or that i want him to leave, but his age cannot be used as an excuse any more!
I meant it as in he needs experience...

You can't compare Silva and AJ in experience, Silva had played for Valencia before we signed him... with players like Villa, and Spain with Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/Torres/Fabregas/Puyol...The list goes on.

And the same goes for Fabregas...

AJ had played for Middlesborogh, with players like...erm...Alfonso Alves...

;)

Anyway, if Mancini is doing what he did with Silva, to AJ, then I'm on his side.


why dont you try to ask yourself why in a time where all the English an European clubs have great scouting structures and also the most unknowed brasilian or kenyan sixteener is scouted a 22 years ENGLISH (not african) player in january was still in championship league ??
 
keemcfc said:
Adebayor said:
This is really starting to annoy me now, since when in the modern game has 23 been young? silva is 1 year older than him, does he have a lot to learn? no, he doesn't. Boyata is young, AJ isn't, he's the same age as Fabregas ffs!!!! he's done nothing in the past couple of months to suggest to me that he should be starting, although i do really like him. I'm not saying he's crap, or that i want him to leave, but his age cannot be used as an excuse any more!
I meant it as in he needs experience...

You can't compare Silva and AJ in experience, Silva had played for Valencia before we signed him... with players like Villa, and Spain with Xavi/Iniesta/Villa/Torres/Fabregas/Puyol...The list goes on.

And the same goes for Fabregas...

AJ had played for Middlesborogh, with players like...erm...Alfonso Alves...

;)

Anyway, if Mancini is doing what he did with Silva, to AJ, then I'm on his side.
Good point about experience.

On his side? Mancini is playing AJ whereas a lot of quality players like SWP and Adebayor are not playing. Mancini clearly rates him - even if he has said that he needs to keep working on his game.

I think some fans used AJ as a stick with which to beat Mancini a few weeks back, but that seems to have faded away now.

I expect he'll feature tomorrow
 

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