Ade the 'physical marvel'

[fbloke]

To be honest Mancio, you can post that shit over and over again - won't make it anymore true than this:



Mancini made Ade 4th choice and systematically isolated him from the team not based on Ade's ability, but based on Mancini's inability to deal with him. It's a massive weakness in our manager and one that will get glossed over because he has a blank cheque book to go and sign whoever he wants.

this is just one of your usual speculation based on nothing.

invent stories and repeat hoping that they get more credits.

Unfortunately there are only shit. the usual shit.

After a year I read your speculations, all proved false, I wonder if you really do feel a little ashamed to continue.

Tee hee hee ;-)

 

[forevermancity]

It's not as easy as that and you know it.

Potential wise I would say:

Balo
Dzeko
Tevez
Ade

But we need players who are used to the prem, Balo hasn't set the world alight yet. Yes he has got 78 in 5 starts or whatever the stats say, but he has been disappointing. Ade would have been better playing them games IMO.
Rsc never got a fair crack either, he is better than jo.
Ade is our player so we can keep hold of him until his contract ends if we wish. 1 nil down in the fa cup final, need a goal, jo or ade on the bench, who would you prefer?
I'm fed up arguing with you, I am a city fan and you are a Mancini fan and only a Mancini fan. We both have different agendas. So let's leave it there.

i'm really disappointed by your last sentence, its , at least , unfair. and you know it.

anyway, manage a team require to do choices , you cant believe City can keep all tevez ade rsc dzeko balotelli becouse in an ipotetical FA cup final etc etc , its not the way the real life go.

so , if you agree ade IS a less good player than tevez balo and dzeko , and if you agree on the fact that ade isnt willing to be 4th choice , and if you understand tha even if ade would be willing to be 4th choice FFP rules do it crazy to keep as 4th choice a 150.000 a week player , then what are we talking about ??

Ffp rules don't come into play for another 18 months mate so don't use that as an excuse for ade not being here.
Ade, on his day is a top player, in just very disappointed that mancin didn't want to manage him same with bellamy. Like you pointed out, we can't afford 150k per week on a 4th choice striker, but we also can't afford to not play a top player just because he's "abit of a character"

 

[fbloke]

i'm really disappointed by your last sentence, its , at least , unfair. and you know it.

anyway, manage a team require to do choices , you cant believe City can keep all tevez ade rsc dzeko balotelli becouse in an ipotetical FA cup final etc etc , its not the way the real life go.

so , if you agree ade IS a less good player than tevez balo and dzeko , and if you agree on the fact that ade isnt willing to be 4th choice , and if you understand tha even if ade would be willing to be 4th choice FFP rules do it crazy to keep as 4th choice a 150.000 a week player , then what are we talking about ??

Ffp rules don't come into play for another 18 months mate so don't use that as an excuse for ade not being here.
Ade, on his day is a top player, in just very disappointed that mancin didn't want to manage him same with bellamy. Like you pointed out, we can't afford 150k per week on a 4th choice striker, but we also can't afford to not play a top player just because he's "abit of a character"

Its a shame his day seems to be Tuesday.

 

[Nevizade]

I think that Adebayor is as frustrating as he is talented, and it's his inconsistency that has irritated the manager, along with his attitude. Sometimes his touch is sublime, sometimes horrendous. Likewise his finishing. No doubt he is a better player than Jo, a player who I can't believe is still anywhere near the club, but it's his aforementioned attitude that I think has been the problem. A big pal of mine down here is a huge Arsenal fan, lives and breathes the club. Home and away, names his kids after Arsenal players, the whole shabang. When we first signed Ade and he was knocking them in for fun I was giving him a bit of stick after he'd been criticising Ade for about a year. He said that I should wait and see what he's really like. 'If an oppo defender gives him a few kicks early on he doesn't want to know, he's not interested.'

Skip forward a few months. We'd seen the good and bad sides of Adebayor. The great finishing, the strength, the acceleration, but we'd also seen this volatile player who sometimes seems to be in his own little world. How many times would he drift over to the left hand side when we desperately needed his presence in the area, or how many times did he needlessly get caught offside, thus breaking the rhythm of our play?

This brings me to the Tottenham game. A massive(sic) game for us. Win and we play Champions League football next year, and compete with the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and Barcelona for club football's biggest prize. Watching Adebayor, one would have thought we were back at York City. I understand that maybe the players froze that night, and sometimes things just don't click, like last Saturday. 'Eeeez a football.' What I can't understand is how a player of such talent, talent that deserves to be displayed in Europe's biggest club competition, and a player who quite frankly thinks a lot of himself as a footballer, cannot get motivated for this game. Is it that difficult to stay onside, or to stay central when the team needs a focal point of attack?

Or maybe he just doesn't have the football brain, and the awareness that Mancini values extremely highly, and it's useless to have a player on 150k a week who the manager regards as unsuitable, and completely dispensable.

The talent cannot be questioned. The application most certainly can be.

 

[forevermancity]

I think that Adebayor is as frustrating as he is talented, and it's his inconsistency that has irritated the manager, along with his attitude. Sometimes his touch is sublime, sometimes horrendous. Likewise his finishing. No doubt he is a better player than Jo, a player who I can't believe is still anywhere near the club, but it's his aforementioned attitude that I think has been the problem. A big pal of mine down here is a huge Arsenal fan, lives and breathes the club. Home and away, names his kids after Arsenal players, the whole shabang. When we first signed Ade and he was knocking them in for fun I was giving him a bit of stick after he'd been criticising Ade for about a year. He said that I should wait and see what he's really like. 'If an oppo defender gives him a few kicks early on he doesn't want to know, he's not interested.'

Skip forward a few months. We'd seen the good and bad sides of Adebayor. The great finishing, the strength, the acceleration, but we'd also seen this volatile player who sometimes seems to be in his own little world. How many times would he drift over to the left hand side when we desperately needed his presence in the area, or how many times did he needlessly get caught offside, thus breaking the rhythm of our play?

This brings me to the Tottenham game. A massive(sic) game for us. Win and we play Champions League football next year, and compete with the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and Barcelona for club football's biggest prize. Watching Adebayor, one would have thought we were back at York City. I understand that maybe the players froze that night, and sometimes things just don't click, like last Saturday. 'Eeeez a football.' What I can't understand is how a player of such talent, talent that deserves to be displayed in Europe's biggest club competition, and a player who quite frankly thinks a lot of himself as a footballer, cannot get motivated for this game. Is it that difficult to stay onside, or to stay central when the team needs a focal point of attack?

Or maybe he just doesn't have the football brain, and the awareness that Mancini values extremely highly, and it's useless to have a player on 150k a week who the manager regards as unsuitable, and completely dispensable.

The talent cannot be questioned. The application most certainly can be.

Great read that mate and can't really argue against it.
I'm really disappointed that the manager didn't sed him as someone who he could help and encourage.
Playing jo instead of him would be seen as a massive slap in the face for him, I'm even pissed off that jo gets picked ahead of me!
When will this club get an inconsistant and raw player and turn him into a world beater?

 

[Anonymous]

Ffp rules don't come into play for another 18 months mate so don't use that as an excuse for ade not being here.
Ade, on his day is a top player, in just very disappointed that mancin didn't want to manage him same with bellamy. Like you pointed out, we can't afford 150k per week on a 4th choice striker, but we also can't afford to not play a top player just because he's "abit of a character"

You are wasting your time my friend...

 

[Nevizade]

I think that Adebayor is as frustrating as he is talented, and it's his inconsistency that has irritated the manager, along with his attitude. Sometimes his touch is sublime, sometimes horrendous. Likewise his finishing. No doubt he is a better player than Jo, a player who I can't believe is still anywhere near the club, but it's his aforementioned attitude that I think has been the problem. A big pal of mine down here is a huge Arsenal fan, lives and breathes the club. Home and away, names his kids after Arsenal players, the whole shabang. When we first signed Ade and he was knocking them in for fun I was giving him a bit of stick after he'd been criticising Ade for about a year. He said that I should wait and see what he's really like. 'If an oppo defender gives him a few kicks early on he doesn't want to know, he's not interested.'

Skip forward a few months. We'd seen the good and bad sides of Adebayor. The great finishing, the strength, the acceleration, but we'd also seen this volatile player who sometimes seems to be in his own little world. How many times would he drift over to the left hand side when we desperately needed his presence in the area, or how many times did he needlessly get caught offside, thus breaking the rhythm of our play?

This brings me to the Tottenham game. A massive(sic) game for us. Win and we play Champions League football next year, and compete with the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and Barcelona for club football's biggest prize. Watching Adebayor, one would have thought we were back at York City. I understand that maybe the players froze that night, and sometimes things just don't click, like last Saturday. 'Eeeez a football.' What I can't understand is how a player of such talent, talent that deserves to be displayed in Europe's biggest club competition, and a player who quite frankly thinks a lot of himself as a footballer, cannot get motivated for this game. Is it that difficult to stay onside, or to stay central when the team needs a focal point of attack?

Or maybe he just doesn't have the football brain, and the awareness that Mancini values extremely highly, and it's useless to have a player on 150k a week who the manager regards as unsuitable, and completely dispensable.

The talent cannot be questioned. The application most certainly can be.

Great read that mate and can't really argue against it.
I'm really disappointed that the manager didn't sed him as someone who he could help and encourage.
Playing jo instead of him would be seen as a massive slap in the face for him, I'm even pissed off that jo gets picked ahead of me!
When will this club get an inconsistant and raw player and turn him into a world beater?

Cheers mate, and I kind of agree. I wish we'd have seen a lot more of the 2007/08 Adebayor, but perhaps what happened in that summer with Milan and his contract issues went to his head. Entirely agree with you about Jo.

As for your last question, we might just have found said player. His name is Mario Balotelli and he has all the talent in the world. And we have the one manager who has been able to harness that talent in Mario's short career to date. Under Mancini this kid will become the best striker in the world (fitness permitting). If Milan want him they'll have to pay the £80 million that Real paid united, I have faith that he will be that good. Lord knows it's about time we smoothed out a rough diamond!

 

[Rammy Blue]

I think that Adebayor is as frustrating as he is talented, and it's his inconsistency that has irritated the manager, along with his attitude. Sometimes his touch is sublime, sometimes horrendous. Likewise his finishing. No doubt he is a better player than Jo, a player who I can't believe is still anywhere near the club, but it's his aforementioned attitude that I think has been the problem. A big pal of mine down here is a huge Arsenal fan, lives and breathes the club. Home and away, names his kids after Arsenal players, the whole shabang. When we first signed Ade and he was knocking them in for fun I was giving him a bit of stick after he'd been criticising Ade for about a year. He said that I should wait and see what he's really like. 'If an oppo defender gives him a few kicks early on he doesn't want to know, he's not interested.'

Skip forward a few months. We'd seen the good and bad sides of Adebayor. The great finishing, the strength, the acceleration, but we'd also seen this volatile player who sometimes seems to be in his own little world. How many times would he drift over to the left hand side when we desperately needed his presence in the area, or how many times did he needlessly get caught offside, thus breaking the rhythm of our play?

This brings me to the Tottenham game. A massive(sic) game for us. Win and we play Champions League football next year, and compete with the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and Barcelona for club football's biggest prize. Watching Adebayor, one would have thought we were back at York City. I understand that maybe the players froze that night, and sometimes things just don't click, like last Saturday. 'Eeeez a football.' What I can't understand is how a player of such talent, talent that deserves to be displayed in Europe's biggest club competition, and a player who quite frankly thinks a lot of himself as a footballer, cannot get motivated for this game. Is it that difficult to stay onside, or to stay central when the team needs a focal point of attack?

Or maybe he just doesn't have the football brain, and the awareness that Mancini values extremely highly, and it's useless to have a player on 150k a week who the manager regards as unsuitable, and completely dispensable.

The talent cannot be questioned. The application most certainly can be.

Top post mate, I remember thinking after those first 4 games by Ade that he's better than Drogba.

Never saw that talent in him again, shame that the ban from the Arse game fucked it up for him and knocked him out of his rhythm.

 

[Nevizade]

I think that Adebayor is as frustrating as he is talented, and it's his inconsistency that has irritated the manager, along with his attitude. Sometimes his touch is sublime, sometimes horrendous. Likewise his finishing. No doubt he is a better player than Jo, a player who I can't believe is still anywhere near the club, but it's his aforementioned attitude that I think has been the problem. A big pal of mine down here is a huge Arsenal fan, lives and breathes the club. Home and away, names his kids after Arsenal players, the whole shabang. When we first signed Ade and he was knocking them in for fun I was giving him a bit of stick after he'd been criticising Ade for about a year. He said that I should wait and see what he's really like. 'If an oppo defender gives him a few kicks early on he doesn't want to know, he's not interested.'

Skip forward a few months. We'd seen the good and bad sides of Adebayor. The great finishing, the strength, the acceleration, but we'd also seen this volatile player who sometimes seems to be in his own little world. How many times would he drift over to the left hand side when we desperately needed his presence in the area, or how many times did he needlessly get caught offside, thus breaking the rhythm of our play?

This brings me to the Tottenham game. A massive(sic) game for us. Win and we play Champions League football next year, and compete with the likes of Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, and Barcelona for club football's biggest prize. Watching Adebayor, one would have thought we were back at York City. I understand that maybe the players froze that night, and sometimes things just don't click, like last Saturday. 'Eeeez a football.' What I can't understand is how a player of such talent, talent that deserves to be displayed in Europe's biggest club competition, and a player who quite frankly thinks a lot of himself as a footballer, cannot get motivated for this game. Is it that difficult to stay onside, or to stay central when the team needs a focal point of attack?

Or maybe he just doesn't have the football brain, and the awareness that Mancini values extremely highly, and it's useless to have a player on 150k a week who the manager regards as unsuitable, and completely dispensable.

The talent cannot be questioned. The application most certainly can be.

Top post mate, I remember thinking after those first 4 games by Ade that he's better than Drogba.

Never saw that talent in him again, shame that the ban from the Arse game fucked it up for him and knocked him out of his rhythm.

Know what you mean. Those first 4 games reminded me of the Brazilian Ronaldo. The guy just had everything to be the complete striker in abundance. Watching the end of season review was just so frustrating, goals like the volley against Bolton to non-performances like that against Stoke away. Like you quite rightly said, a real shame.

 

[redmizzle]

I'm a big fan of Mancini but i'm really disappointed Ade is gone for whatever reason. It only takes an injury to Tevez then we'll be turning to Jo, he better be 100% sure he knows what he's doing. Ade scores a hatrick and he's on the bench the very next game.