Adebayor on strike.

Danamy said:
taconinja said:
Danamy said:
Yes it was Marwood's secretary.........

This is nothing new though, it's the same way Bellamy found out he wasn't in the 25 man squad last season.

I would like to say more but i would be in breach of Section 233 Paragraph 4 of the Bluemoon Handbook
I didn't defend that as the correct way to inform a player.

I was merely stating that what you heard was correct, nothing more........
No problem. There's been an air of testiness over this situation and I figured it was best I made sure I was being clear. :)
 
Dubai Blue said:
Chick Counterfly said:
I don't get the 'I'd do the same' bit. I doubt you would. I'm willing to bet you wouldn't go around criticising your employer in public, even if you had a problem. Most people handle their business face to face.
Which is kind of ironic considering this is the very issue that Adebayor has with how City have behaved.

Face to face is an expression. Wether in a meeting or informally, over the phone, in a letter, or an email, the principle is that you talk directly to the people with whom you have an issue, or where that's not possible, you go through the channels. As opposed to gossiping behind people's backs or running to the press and presenting your side to the biggest audience possible. If you do that, surely you are wholly responsible for any offence or misunderstanding. Putting aside the public criticism, the longest of Ade's interviews made it quite clear he had no intention or desire to resume his career at City. Unless he's taken steps to clarify his comments behind the scenes, perhaps not apologising, maybe just letting it be known that he wanted to play an active and full role at the club, then all of his outrage is feigned bullshit and he's just a guy who got an email containing the exact date for his return to work.

I have absolutely no problem with him being left at home to train with the reserves; he's clearly not part of our future plans and it is a lot easier for him to secure a transfer if he's not sitting on a bench on the other side of the world watching our first team playing a meaningless friendly.

BUT......there is absolutely no excuse for him being informed of this via an email from Mancini's secretary. Somebody from within the club should have sat down with him and explained the situation in person. It didn't necessarily need to be Mancini himself, but someone should have done it, be it Platt, Kidd, Marwood, or Cook. Anyone.
but not Marwood's or Mancini's secretary?

He got the email whilst he was on holiday to let him know when to return. It's hard to have a sit down with someone a thousand miles away on holiday.

I couldn't really give a shit about Adebayor's feelings, but that is how a decent employer goes about things, and you can be sure that other players will be looking at this situation and thinking "Fucking hell, that's a bit harsh". And that is definitely not something you want current or future employees to be thinking; unless, of course, you're running the mafia.

Hah, not the mafia, but football. With good reason, it's not always run the same way as a quiet office.

Danamy said:
taconinja said:
Is the bolded part accurate? I had heard it was Marwood's secretary.

Yes it was Marwood's secretary.........

This is nothing new though, it's the same way Bellamy found out he wasn't in the 25 man squad last season.

I would like to say more but i would be in breach of Section 233 Paragraph 4 of the Bluemoon Handbook

Outrageous. Clearly the club should have taken a leaf out of Ade and Craig's book and announced it via the press.
 
Chick Counterfly said:
Dubai Blue said:
Chick Counterfly said:
I don't get the 'I'd do the same' bit. I doubt you would. I'm willing to bet you wouldn't go around criticising your employer in public, even if you had a problem. Most people handle their business face to face.
Which is kind of ironic considering this is the very issue that Adebayor has with how City have behaved.

Face to face is an expression. Wether in a meeting or informally, over the phone, in a letter, or an email, the principle is that you talk directly to the people with whom you have an issue, or where that's not possible, you go through the channels. As opposed to gossiping behind people's backs or running to the press and presenting your side to the biggest audience possible. If you do that, surely you are wholly responsible for any offence or misunderstanding. Putting aside the public criticism, the longest of Ade's interviews made it quite clear he had no intention or desire to resume his career at City. Unless he's taken steps to clarify his comments behind the scenes, perhaps not apologising, maybe just letting it be known that he wanted to play an active and full role at the club, then all of his outrage is feigned bullshit and he's just a guy who got an email containing the exact date for his return to work.

I have absolutely no problem with him being left at home to train with the reserves; he's clearly not part of our future plans and it is a lot easier for him to secure a transfer if he's not sitting on a bench on the other side of the world watching our first team playing a meaningless friendly.

BUT......there is absolutely no excuse for him being informed of this via an email from Mancini's secretary. Somebody from within the club should have sat down with him and explained the situation in person. It didn't necessarily need to be Mancini himself, but someone should have done it, be it Platt, Kidd, Marwood, or Cook. Anyone.
but not Marwood's or Mancini's secretary?

He got the email whilst he was on holiday to let him know when to return. It's hard to have a sit down with someone a thousand miles away on holiday.

I couldn't really give a shit about Adebayor's feelings, but that is how a decent employer goes about things, and you can be sure that other players will be looking at this situation and thinking "Fucking hell, that's a bit harsh". And that is definitely not something you want current or future employees to be thinking; unless, of course, you're running the mafia.

Hah, not the mafia, but football. With good reason, it's not always run the same way as a quiet office.

Danamy said:
taconinja said:
Is the bolded part accurate? I had heard it was Marwood's secretary.

Yes it was Marwood's secretary.........

This is nothing new though, it's the same way Bellamy found out he wasn't in the 25 man squad last season.

I would like to say more but i would be in breach of Section 233 Paragraph 4 of the Bluemoon Handbook

Outrageous. Clearly the club should have taken a leaf out of Ade and Craig's book and announced it via the press.

Yeah i agree it's outrageous, totally unprofessional from both sides..............

No double standards from my side of the fence Chick
 
Danamy said:
Yeah i agree it's outrageous, totally unprofessional from both sides..............

No double standards from my side of the fence Chick

Yeah, I know I'm treading a fine line, and I'm a little uncomfortable because we don't know the full story. But taking it all at face value, no-one at City has said a thing about Ade. They've given him the cold shoulder after countless public incidents. If you read his interviews, he pretty much is explicit that he thinks it's just a game and he has to make the right moves. It seems as if he is creating a stink in the press then implying it will all go away if they settle up quickly... which is just a bullying tactic, the sort of thing that would make this alleged cold-shoulder approach look like a mild response.
 
If what adebayor is saying is true, then its really poor from man city. Why not just call him over for a meeting and explain the situation face to face and move him on. There is a way to treat people and this is not the way
 
adebayor could have been the right striker that city needed, started well and then got lazy. i kind of understand him not turning up for training with the reseve team. slightly imbarressing! but if he goes back to madrid he will bag goals galore maybe if mancini gave him the oppotunity like mouriniho has he could have been more succesful here.
 
Most likely scenario

Mancini: Ade, I need you to come back from holiday early as I need to speak to you
Ade: Bugger off, I'm on holiday
Mancini: Ok, I'll tell you now on the phone. You're not wanted in the tour team but we need you to report for training on X date.
Ade: *&^&*%^, )&*^ you )(&*(*&^ *Y*^. (Runs off crying to the newspapers how City didn't have the decency to inform him face-to-face and he got a phone call saying he wasn't wanted).

He'd have bitched and whinged to the papers if he'd been granted an audience by the queen to tell him he wasn't wanted on the tour.
 
gooneyrovski said:
If what adebayor is saying is true, then its really poor from man city. Why not just call him over for a meeting and explain the situation face to face and move him on. There is a way to treat people and this is not the way


Yeah, we should just have forced him to see out his contract instead... that's a far fairer way to treat employees!

Let him be forced to turn out for us, even though he doesn't want to. And you think that's an appropriate way to treat professionals?
 
Soulboy said:
peoffrey said:
Is there anyone at Real Madrid we can get in return as part of a deal? It's a shame Aguero doesn't play for them!

Alonso... Diarra... Kaka... Gago... Pepe... Benzema... Higuain... Ronaldo...

Take your pick.

I would!

Anyone available?! I don't fancy another move for Kaka - and Ronaldo would upset some of our support on general principal.
 
mammutly said:
Why is the maximum fine 2 weeks wages?

Is that for every day he doesn't turn up?
As far as I know if the club want to fine him any more than that, they must do so in consultation with the PFA. No one messes with Gordon Taylor and Clarke Carlisle.
 
Manchester City has been sympathectic to both these players in one way or another.


ade: when it all kicked off with the shooting episode, gave him loads of time off.
Bellers: Helped with his dream move to Cardiff by paying for him?

And both of them have bitched ,moaned and acted like dicks.

Its funny how earning mega money can make people forget who it is that pay there wages.

Sad!
 
dref619 said:
if he ends up at madrid, we have got very lucky , as has he

On the face of it you have to wonder why anyone would want to take him on,however,given he can be brilliant when he gets what he wants and everything is going his way,it could be a very shrewd move by Jose.I imagine Ade will take a big pay cut to get away and the fee will be less than half what we paid.
 
Delboy_Mcfc said:
adebayor could have been the right striker that city needed, started well and then got lazy. i kind of understand him not turning up for training with the reseve team. slightly imbarressing! but if he goes back to madrid he will bag goals galore maybe if mancini gave him the oppotunity like mouriniho has he could have been more succesful here.


Didn't he score about 1 in 4 whilst he was there? Hardly goals galore considering Tevez's ratio for us is something like 1 in 1.5?
 
PUTTYBLUE said:
Manchester City has been sympathectic to both these players in one way or another.


ade: when it all kicked off with the shooting episode, gave him loads of time off.
Bellers: Helped with his dream move to Cardiff by paying for him?

And both of them have bitched ,moaned and acted like dicks.

Its funny how earning mega money can make people forget who it is that pay there wages.

Sad!

Correct.

Bellamy in particular is a ****. when city let him go to cardiff and funded the deal to make it happen,there was rumoured to be a gentlemans agreement not to slag the club off. bellamy duly respected that and indeed at the press conference on his 1st day at cardiff neatly fielded all questions about mancini with a text-book response"-he,s a good manager, i haven,t got a problem with him,he will go on to win trophies at city,"....so far so good.

cardiff don,t get promoted,they can,t afford to buy craig,so he ends up back at city.slagging the manager,explaining why he won,t take a pay cut to go elsewhere because his african charity needs the money..do me a favour craig-keep your mouth shut,get your head down in pre-season training and stop biting the hand that feeds you-try and put yourself on the market so that other clubs see you as the right sort of professional to give a generous contract to..

don,t come across as the sort of foul mouthed,troublesome professional who simply moves from club-to-club,never wins anything in his career and is at odds with someone/thing 24/7.


great player for us,but soon reverted to type when things didn,t go his way and he undermined the new manager-great move that craig-it meant you missed out on your 1st ever career medal.you haventy got long left at the top mate-think carefully about your posistion and don,t let your ..ahem..charity down.
 
Perhaps I am missing something but as I undersatnd the rules you can only fine a player the maximum of two weeks wages when he does something wrong. He was instructed to turn up today for training: he no shows which earns him a fine of 2 weeks wages.
Tomorrow he is again instructed to turn up for training, he does not and again it is a fine of two weeks wages and so on and so on, soon the ignorant greedy sh*t will get the message.
 
Uber Blue said:
Delboy_Mcfc said:
adebayor could have been the right striker that city needed, started well and then got lazy. i kind of understand him not turning up for training with the reseve team. slightly imbarressing! but if he goes back to madrid he will bag goals galore maybe if mancini gave him the oppotunity like mouriniho has he could have been more succesful here.


Didn't he score about 1 in 4 whilst he was there? Hardly goals galore considering Tevez's ratio for us is something like 1 in 1.5?

im not sure his goalscoring record, but he certainly beat Benzema and a almost-fit Higuain out of the side on more then one occasion. 2 players who some people on here are drooling over to come in some sort of fantasy Tevez Madrid swap deal.
 
Its sad. Each night I check these threads and it's the same few people falling over themselves to defend the indefensible.

Put another way. Before you call someone else a ****. Make sure you're not defending a ****.
 
BillyShears said:
Its sad. Each night I check these threads and it's the same few people falling over themselves to defend the indefensible.

Put another way. Before you call someone else a ****. Make sure you're not defending a ****.
You dont think Bellamy is a ****? that he is a model pro? or am i way of here?
 

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