Adolescence

Bigga said:
Look, dumbo, don't quote me, then tell me not to respond, you dick. I see you're getting pilloried on other threads you're contributing to as well!

As it happens, I don't just take in soundbites from news outlets, which is why I posted what I posted, taking into account all he's done. I doubt, VERY MUCH, you understand the mindset of where he's coming from, so don't understand the context of the news and what they leave out.

At no point have you even decried any of the images and actions women are displaying online and just blaming it on young boys.

I see BOTH sides of it. You don't.

Until you DO and can discuss things in good faith, get to fuck.
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What do they leave out? I’m genuinely curious?

Is he a good man? Is he someone you’d be happy with your daughter or son looking up to? What is it that drives this thought?
 
BridgyDids said:
What do they leave out? I’m genuinely curious?

Is he a good man? Is he someone you’d be happy with your daughter or son looking up to? What is it that drives this thought?
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The only credit I actually give Tate is that he found a market to cash in on, much like Katie Hopkins, Russel Brand and all the other bunch of narcissistic lowlife grifters - he’s done it purely for Money, I’ve listened to him and find it funny how anyone can take him seriously- unfortunately young confused kids do and it has consequences- as Adolescence showed.
 
BridgyDids said:
What do they leave out? I’m genuinely curious?

Is he a good man? Is he someone you’d be happy with your daughter or son looking up to? What is it that drives this thought?
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Is there any point in discussing what media has left out if you've already been completely persuaded by the narrative you're convinced by...? Find it yourself if you can be bothered.

It's much like you skipping over what I said about also another narrative that happens as I've said in my post. You only see one side, so it's pointless talking any further on the subject.

It doesn't matter what I've said about Tate. I haven't sung any glory about him, but I know enough sides to the narrative said and unsaid.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
This is defending him.

‘no highlight of the positive comments he's made.
Winding up, context and sarcasm comes a lot into what Tate says and does ‘
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No, you fool, it's in context as part of the whole that you left out.

You're the 'Oct 7th' idiot when there's a wider narrative at play.

You, literally, ignore why things are the way they are.

Are all you Tarquins truly stupid...?
 
Bigga said:
You, literally, ignore why things are the way they are.
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No, you downplay the damaging impact the likes of Tate have on children.
His not the sole reason, there’s many factors why some youngsters are detached and psychologically suffer in todays world, as this show also highlighted - however, Tate and other influencers do play a part. Acknowledge that and then I’ll try to take you seriously.
 
Come on guys, you're just focusing on the negative things that the misogynist rapist people trafficker has said and done, not on any of the positive messages he's put out there.

And while we're at it, we never hear anything about Jeffrey Epstein's charity work or that time Harvey Weinstein was nice to a puppy. It's a disgrace.
 
Bigga said:
Is there any point in discussing what media has left out if you've already been completely persuaded by the narrative you're convinced by...? Find it yourself if you can be bothered.

It's much like you skipping over what I said about also another narrative that happens as I've said in my post. You only see one side, so it's pointless talking any further on the subject.

It doesn't matter what I've said about Tate. I haven't sung any glory about him, but I know enough sides to the narrative said and unsaid.
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Can you be specific on the narratives please?

I asked ChatGPT for a balanced view and it came up with this:




1. Confidence and Charisma

Positive: Tate is undeniably confident and charismatic, which helps him connect with a large audience and inspire a sense of empowerment, especially among young men seeking direction.


Critical: However, this same confidence often comes across as arrogance or dominance, and his confrontational tone can be polarizing or disrespectful toward opposing views.


2. Entrepreneurial Drive

Positive: He promotes financial independence, self-employment, and encourages people to escape the 9-to-5 system — ideas that resonate in the digital economy.


Critical: Some of his business practices, like “Hustler’s University,” have drawn skepticism. Critics question whether the model offers real, lasting value or just benefits the top-tier earners.

3. Discipline and Self-Improvement
Positive: Tate’s focus on personal discipline, routine, and self-improvement motivates many to take control of their lives, work hard, and become more resilient.


Critical: The way he presents these values can be extreme, sometimes pushing a “no excuses” mentality that overlooks individual circumstances, mental health, or systemic barriers.

4. Physical Fitness and Masculinity
Positive: He promotes physical training and strength as a way to build confidence, health, and self-respect — which can be genuinely beneficial.


Critical: His framing of masculinity is often rigid and traditional, leaving little room for emotional depth or alternative expressions of manhood, which can feel exclusionary.

5. Influence and Online Presence
Positive: Tate has mastered digital platforms, building a massive global following. His reach allows him to influence and engage with millions around self-growth topics.


Critical: His content has also spread misogynistic and inflammatory views, leading to bans from multiple platforms and serious concerns about his influence on young audiences.

Is there anything else?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
No, you downplay the damaging impact the likes of Tate have on children.
His not the sole reason, there’s many factors why some youngsters are detached and psychologically suffer in todays world, as this show also highlighted - however, Tate and other influencers do play a part. Acknowledge that and then I’ll try to take you seriously.
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When you decide to include the other "factors why some youngsters are detached and psychologically suffer" in this whole issue, I'll be the one to take you seriously!

I've been saying that from the off that Tate is not the only problem and now you decide to mention it like it's your epiphany? You are the goldfish in the bowl the media feeds. Your world is circular and small and the little you consume is the little thing you know.

The "Red Pill" space has been in existence for 12 years+. It did not start out the way it has ended up. It has been 'co-opted' by another demographic and another set of 'thinkers' chasing the money.

So, for the last fucking time for the dense, I'm not defending Tate, but you seem to think he is the sum of all the parts to make your answer.

He. Is. Not.

So, "do me a favour" as you 'Del Boy' southerners say...
 
BridgyDids said:
Can you be specific on the narratives please?

I asked ChatGPT for a balanced view and it came up with this:




1. Confidence and Charisma

Positive: Tate is undeniably confident and charismatic, which helps him connect with a large audience and inspire a sense of empowerment, especially among young men seeking direction.


Critical: However, this same confidence often comes across as arrogance or dominance, and his confrontational tone can be polarizing or disrespectful toward opposing views.


2. Entrepreneurial Drive

Positive: He promotes financial independence, self-employment, and encourages people to escape the 9-to-5 system — ideas that resonate in the digital economy.


Critical: Some of his business practices, like “Hustler’s University,” have drawn skepticism. Critics question whether the model offers real, lasting value or just benefits the top-tier earners.

3. Discipline and Self-Improvement
Positive: Tate’s focus on personal discipline, routine, and self-improvement motivates many to take control of their lives, work hard, and become more resilient.


Critical: The way he presents these values can be extreme, sometimes pushing a “no excuses” mentality that overlooks individual circumstances, mental health, or systemic barriers.

4. Physical Fitness and Masculinity
Positive: He promotes physical training and strength as a way to build confidence, health, and self-respect — which can be genuinely beneficial.


Critical: His framing of masculinity is often rigid and traditional, leaving little room for emotional depth or alternative expressions of manhood, which can feel exclusionary.

5. Influence and Online Presence
Positive: Tate has mastered digital platforms, building a massive global following. His reach allows him to influence and engage with millions around self-growth topics.


Critical: His content has also spread misogynistic and inflammatory views, leading to bans from multiple platforms and serious concerns about his influence on young audiences.

Is there anything else?
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I'll be fair to you; you've made a start.

So, now if you're arsed, ask better questions. I've seen at what point he came into the space and when the turn happened. He doesn't represent where the discussion came in and I don't know what 'Chat GPT' picks up to feed back to you.

Summary is great, but it's not everything.
 
The fact is, that until online influencers like Tate are dealt with, we will continue to see young radicalised people commit terrorist atrocities. He's basically a white bin laden.
 
Bigga said:
When you decide to include the other "factors why some youngsters are detached and psychologically suffer" in this whole issue, I'll be the one to take you seriously!

I've been saying that from the off that Tate is not the only problem and now you decide to mention it like it's your epiphany? You are the goldfish in the bowl the media feeds. Your world is circular and small and the little you consume is the little thing you know.

The "Red Pill" space has been in existence for 12 years+. It did not start out the way it has ended up. It has been 'co-opted' by another demographic and another set of 'thinkers' chasing the money.

So, for the last fucking time for the dense, I'm not defending Tate, but you seem to think he is the sum of all the parts to make your answer.

He. Is. Not.

So, "do me a favour" as you 'Del Boy' southerners say...
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It's obvious there is other factors - that is, as i've already mentioned highlighted in this show and discussed on here. However, your sole purpose on this thread from the start has been to downplay and be ignorant about the role the likes of Tate play in society and the dangers these influencers have on children - that is why you are being pulled up on this.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
It's obvious there is other factors - that is, as i've already mentioned highlighted in this show and discussed on here. However, your sole purpose on this thread from the start has been to downplay and be ignorant about the role the likes of Tate play in society and the dangers these influencers have on children - that is why you are being pulled up on this.
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It's like banging your head against the wall, Goldfish.

"Other factors" have been 'discussed' to the same level as a person that gets mentioned... once in the entire show...? Let's see you discuss with the same passion, the other issues.

The platform is here to do so.

Or feed, Goldfish, feed...
 
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