Afghanistan

JASR said:
Re: Hunter Biden and China.

no, that’s the GOP stripping any references to Trump instigating the pullout originally and then thrashing around for something to blame and deflect on Biden.

you could say the same about trump , Russia and Syria (and almost anything that truly did to undermine US interests)

the US messed up its withdrawal at the end, undoubtedly, and it occurred on Biden watch. But it was trump that did the pull out, it was bush that started war on terror and it was Reagan that armed the mujaheden (bin laden/Taliban etc).

blaming Biden or even Obama for Afghanistan is a complete load of bollox
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they will though, relentlessly till 2024.
 
KPXBLN said:
Yes, that is a matter of record and 2 decades of reporting. The Taliban repeatedly tried to come to a negotiated surrender, beginning with their offer to turn over Bin Laden before the invasion in 2001, but the US insisted on total defeat. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of record. Sorry.

Just one example on this, from Spencer Ackerman, who is an American national security journalist who has won the Pulitzer Prize. https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-a...een-had-many-years-and-thousands-of-lives-ago
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The problem with that is that its the Taliban Field Commanders who run the show. What a spokesman in Doha say doesn’t carry a lot of weight on the Afghan battle fields.

 
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KS55 said:
The post by Kinky's Crazy contained the deathless phrase:
"One mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
I don't know who originally coined it, but it is the stupidest comment on this type of affair ever given breath.
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Darrel trent
 
KS55 said:
The post by Kinky's Crazy contained the deathless phrase:
"One mans terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
I don't know who originally coined it, but it is the stupidest comment on this type of affair ever given breath.
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Depends which man you are.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Wait, did he announced his plan today, or is it being reported that he had a plan which he'd previously announced because I don't recall one?

Unless it's one of his 'super smart' plans that only he knew about and he been waiting until now to reveal it so that it had maximum negative impact on Biden...
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And just to reiterate my previous post: Early in Trump's presidency he signed an Executive Order essentially banning refugees from mainly majority Muslim countries from entering the USA, so to say that Trump was in favour of bringing aircraft loads of Afghans to the US, so much so that it was his plan all along is more than a bit of a stretch.
 
Vic said:
That's patently untrue.
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It’s true for the majority of the rural (and tribal) population.
It’s very untrue of the majority of the urban Kabul population.

they are so different, and have been since… well… since Kabul became a city.

it’s like lumping all Americans as ‘the same’ despite the chasm of difference between the coasts and the Midwest.
Or Londoners/SE and every other place in the uk ;-)
 
And in the strangest of scenes

  1. Overthrow the government - check
  2. Bring back strict laws - check
  3. Ride on the dodgems for free - check
 
Vic said:
That's patently untrue.
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How do you know this?
It seems to me the vast majority of Afghanis want to live by the Tenets of Islam (as they have done for centuries) and let them get on with it.
 
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