Aguero banned for three games (updated)

[Blue Til Death]

I think both players went in with arms and elbows but Reid came off worse, Sergio will get banned for certain, probably just for the rags game, however if he was playing in any other team I suspect he would walk scott free..!

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Is there any chance if banned, it can be less than 3 matches or is that the minimum?

The charge is violent conduct, and that carries 3 matches.

There may be occasional incidents with less given, but they are very occasional.

 

[moomba]

Matic was the only one I can recall where a ban dropped from three to 1. And that was after a pretty sustained media campaign.

Very few have been overturned, and I'd be amazed if this is one of them.

 

[SWP's back]

now he will end up with a 4 match ban after the appeal

How do you work that out?

 

[Plain Speaking]

If you are trying to remove someone from your back, it is a natural movement to move your upper arm quickly like Aguero did to " shrug them off".

It is difficult to prove what the referee did or didn't see. His head may be pointing towards the incident but his eyes could be looking to the side?

Additionally the same incident can look completely different from different viewpoints. The media keep showing a viewpoint that seems to show contact with Aguero 's elbow to Reid's jaw but viewed from another angle it is clear no contact was made with his elbow. It annoys me the media keep talking how Aguero contacted Reid with his elbow when it is not true.

Having said this I do expect Aguero to receive a ban, he has been trialled by the media and found guilty.

 

[Jazzman]

If this was ibrahimovic involved in exactly the same circumstances I'm sure 99% of this board would be demanding a 3 match ban. I can't see him getting off as it would completely undermine the referee. Apart from the United game we won't miss him too much, so it could be worse.

I think the ref undermined himself by lying about not seeing the incident, when it is obvious to the whole world that he was looking directly at it from a short distance.

 

[Blue Mooner]

If you are trying to remove someone from your back, it is a natural movement to move your upper arm quickly like Aguero did to " shrug them off".

It is difficult to prove what the referee did or didn't see. His head may be pointing towards the incident but his eyes could be looking to the side?

Additionally the same incident can look completely different from different viewpoints. The media keep showing a viewpoint that seems to show contact with Aguero 's elbow to Reid's jaw but viewed from another angle it is clear no contact was made with his elbow. It annoys me the media keep talking how Aguero contacted Reid with his elbow when it is not true.

Having said this I do expect Aguero to receive a ban, he has been trialled by the media and found guilty.

If viewed from the side (where Sky seem to keep showing) of course it is going to 'look! Like contact was made. The reality is there was little if any contact made. If you really 'want' to throw your elbow into someone there will not be any room for doubt. For that see Fellaini and Rooney examples.

 

[bellsouth]

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I think the ref undermined himself by lying about not seeing the incident, when it is obvious to the whole world that he was looking directly at it from a short distance.

The refs kind of covered though isn't he? He can say that he saw the two jostling for the ball (something that cannot be denied as he's looking straight at it) but say he didn't see an elbow throw. FA (thanks to the kind people who 'sent' them the footage) can say back to him, that's fine Andre, we have another angle where he's throwing an elbow so don't worry about it.

 

[Jazzman]

The refs kind of covered though isn't he? He can say that he saw the two jostling for the ball (something that cannot be denied as he's looking straight at it) but say he didn't see an elbow throw. FA (thanks to the kind people who 'sent' them the footage) can say back to him, that's fine Andre, we have another angle where he's throwing an elbow so don't worry about it.

I am sure that's how it will be played. My statement was in response to somebody saying we would undermine the ref by challenging. I think Marriner is either a lying cnut or an incompetent cnut, so we do not have to worry about undermining him.

 

[ancoats]

He won't. That's not how this works. You're always allowed to have a hearing against post-match charges.

they can if they see the club is using the appeal to there advantage by having the advantage in playing him