Aguero

1972Bramhall_Blue said:
In fairnes the way certain clubs not that far away have taken the piss useing 'injuries' to keep their players out of international commitments I can kind of see why the Argentines want to check for themselves.

I can see the Argentines issue but there must be a better way to manage this type of situation. Traveling and the pressure difference in flight cant aid recovery.
 
Mikecini said:
1972Bramhall_Blue said:
In fairnes the way certain clubs not that far away have taken the piss useing 'injuries' to keep their players out of international commitments I can kind of see why the Argentines want to check for themselves.

I can see the Argentines issue but there must be a better way to manage this type of situation. Traveling and the pressure difference in flight cant be conducive to recovery.
it certainly isn't
but if he's missing two games before the break that should give them a bit of a clue he's injured
 
pudge said:
Papa Smurf said:
pudge said:
That's some apology...

You've completely misunderstood his post

No i didnt, he meant to say that hopefully evil AFA wont call him, I know he didnt mean the Argentinean people. He probably said that because in the past AFA has called "injured" players before. At the same time you guys claim our players are injured very often only for them to play two days later. Well AFA has learned their lesson so they'll call them and talk to them face to face before taking your word at face value. If it was up to you guys we would never see our players together other than the world cup every four years.

The "Armchair European cnut" wasnt aimed at him, I was trying to convey that this is a recurring conversation everytime there is an international match, so recurring every once in a while I blow up like this.
Aguero is injured, the poster then said he doesn't want Argentina to call him up simply so they can see for themselves that he is injured; because it would be pointless and a hindrance.

That would be so if European clubs didn't lie about this stuff, unfortunately they do. Like when Tevez was supposed to travel with us to play against Brasil in November 2010 and he didn't because he was injured only to play three days later with you guys. Which by the way cost him his spot in the team...<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:44 pm --<br /><br />Aguero is injured, the poster then said he doesn't want Argentina to call him up simply so they can see for themselves that he is injured; because it would be pointless and a hindrance.

-- Aug 21st, '12, 20:31 --

1972Bramhall_Blue said:
In fairnes the way certain clubs not that far away have used 'injuries' to keep their players out of international commitments I can kind of see why the Argentines want to check for themselves.
But there's 2 games until the international break, so why would City claim he's injured and not play him in those 2 games just so he won't play for Argentina 3 weeks down the line?[/quote]

He said Dickheads like "NORMAL" meaning we do this all the time, which prompted my replies. we are no longer talking about this specific incident Pudge
 
BenchillBlue said:
Luke_mcfc said:
He's just tweeted that he's still got ice on his knee and starts recovery physio tomorrow. Can't be as bad as first feared... Surely?!
I read that tweet and thought that. What's recovery physio?


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Papa Smurf said:
That would be so if European clubs didn't lie about this stuff, unfortunately they do. Like when Tevez was supposed to travel with us to play against Brasil in November 2010 and he didn't because he was injured only to play three days later with you guys. Which by the way cost him his spot in the team...
Rather than request an injured (or "injured" if you like) player to travel half way round the world for a 5 minute appointment at the doctors, why not send an uninjured doctor to assess them where they are recovering (or "recovering" if you prefer) ? Better for all in the long term.
 
Papa Smurf said:
OK I see I made meself look like a tit, then I guess I apologize if I was harsh, the "Fuck you" was meant with a pinch of humour aswell but I guess tone doesnt quite translate into text.

you have to understand that countries like us and Brazil are constantly providing Europe with our best players, we get to enjoy them when they are kids and if we are lucky we get to retain one for a bit longer a la Neymar before someone comes with a gazillion dollars to take him away.

Could you imagine how awesome our league would be with Tevez and Riquelme in Boca, Higuain in River plate, messi in Newells and DiMaria in Rosario Central? Unfortunately due to world economics we Argie Football fans have to see your league to see our best players.

Unfortunately our coutry is doing so bad that these guys coming from the worst parts generally have to maintain another 50 family members. This means that as much as they would love to stay in the club they love and saw them grow when big money comes in there is only one viable option. It sucks but we accept it as part of life.

So, when some Armchair European cnut comes complaining because we call them up (and mind you they all want to come too) my first reaction is always screw you I would like to see messi as well before he retires, at least once.

There, rant over sorry if I crossed a line
Who pays his wages??
 
Papa Smurf, you make the Dzeko fans look thick skinned.

Mountain and molehill spring to mind.
 
cleavers said:
Papa Smurf said:
That would be so if European clubs didn't lie about this stuff, unfortunately they do. Like when Tevez was supposed to travel with us to play against Brasil in November 2010 and he didn't because he was injured only to play three days later with you guys. Which by the way cost him his spot in the team...
Rather than request an injured (or "injured" if you like) player to travel half way round the world for a 5 minute appointment at the doctors, why not send an uninjured doctor to assess them where they are recovering (or "recovering" if you prefer) ? Better for all in the long term.

I don't think what you propose is a terrible idea at all, in fact it surprises me they don't already do it

I can imagine though what would happen... everytime the AFA dr will say he's ok and yours will say no. What happens after that I dunno, I would leave it up to the player but surely they would play injured if the alternative means losing their spot... complicated issue

-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:52 pm --

gocity said:
Papa Smurf said:
OK I see I made meself look like a tit, then I guess I apologize if I was harsh, the "Fuck you" was meant with a pinch of humour aswell but I guess tone doesnt quite translate into text.

you have to understand that countries like us and Brazil are constantly providing Europe with our best players, we get to enjoy them when they are kids and if we are lucky we get to retain one for a bit longer a la Neymar before someone comes with a gazillion dollars to take him away.

Could you imagine how awesome our league would be with Tevez and Riquelme in Boca, Higuain in River plate, messi in Newells and DiMaria in Rosario Central? Unfortunately due to world economics we Argie Football fans have to see your league to see our best players.

Unfortunately our coutry is doing so bad that these guys coming from the worst parts generally have to maintain another 50 family members. This means that as much as they would love to stay in the club they love and saw them grow when big money comes in there is only one viable option. It sucks but we accept it as part of life.

So, when some Armchair European cnut comes complaining because we call them up (and mind you they all want to come too) my first reaction is always screw you I would like to see messi as well before he retires, at least once.

There, rant over sorry if I crossed a line
Who pays his wages??

you?<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:54 pm --<br /><br />
pudge said:
Papa Smurf, you make the Dzeko fans look thick skinned.

Mountain and molehill spring to mind.

why? they always say Dzeko is better than Ballo and Tevez, this is thick mindedness indeed.

Where have I been thick minded? tried to explain to you the situation yet you dont seem to be reading my posts other than to nitpick instead of addressing the real issue at hand.
 
cleavers said:
Papa Smurf said:
That would be so if European clubs didn't lie about this stuff, unfortunately they do. Like when Tevez was supposed to travel with us to play against Brasil in November 2010 and he didn't because he was injured only to play three days later with you guys. Which by the way cost him his spot in the team...
Rather than request an injured (or "injured" if you like) player to travel half way round the world for a 5 minute appointment at the doctors, why not send an uninjured doctor to assess them where they are recovering (or "recovering" if you prefer) ? Better for all in the long term.

Or email them the scans and medical report?

FFS, this is ridiculous.
 

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