Alan Davies upsets Liverpool fans

[paulchapo]

I haven't got a lot of love for Liverpool football club but NINETY SIX of their fans died that day.If the people of Liverpool and the club feel it shouldn't be played on that date i think they have that right.

I remember the awful scenes of that day and in the dark days of fences,crap grounds and over heavy policing it really could have been any one of us who attended matches in that era.

Davies will live to regret that remark i am sure because one thing about scousers,like the Irish....they never forget.

 

[Cheesy]

I haven't got a lot of love for Liverpool football club but NINETY SIX of their fans died that day.If the people of Liverpool and the club feel it shouldn't be played on that date i think they have that right.

I remember the awful scenes of that day and in the dark days of fences,crap grounds and over heavy policing it really could have been any one of us who attended matches in that era.

Davies will live to regret that remark i am sure because one thing about scousers,like the Irish....they never forget.

Not quite right. They forget with ease when it's them who have caused any trouble.

 

[MCFC BOB]

I thought:

Do Rangers play on the date when all their fans died in that disaster whatever year that was - 1971?"

Was a bit disrespectful. But I'm staying firmly on the fence with this one.

 

[paulchapo]

They like a lot of fans are not blameless but 96 of them died that day and if a match has to be put back or forward a day i don't see why it can't.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

They like a lot of fans are not blameless but 96 of them died that day and if a match has to be put back or forward a day i don't see why it can't.

so do you think anybody who's lost someone in a tragedy or whatever should be entitled to not go into work even 20 odd years after it happened because they can't move on, or don't want to as it gives them some relevance or meaning and keeps everybody on their side?

I have an immense dislike of how the Rags and the Dippers conduct themselves regarding their past tragedies.

I worry about people who think things that happen in football are worse than in the rest of life, because if people actually stepped back and looked at the bigger picture then maybe these tragedies would get the same attention as the thousands of others that people don't give the light of day to bother remembering about.

 

[paulchapo]

You are talking bollocks.Everyone deals with grief differently.There are probably relatives of some of the 96 who go to work on the day.Anyone who has suffered grief knows it DOES ease with time.

Liverpool are a club with a worldwide fanbase.While a lot of them will not have known anyone personally who died in the tragedy they were people from the same club,it is like a family,anyone with a heart and soul knows that.It was a COLLECTIVE tragedy indirectly affecting thousands worldwide.

If it was our club how would you feel?How many times does that date fall on a match day?Daglish was at the club at that time,he saw the events unfolding live in front of his eyes.He was also at Heysel.

Sometimes things are bigger than a game and if they don't want to play a game of football on that date i say let them not play it.

To say they milk it,the same as the Munich disaster,in my opinion is wrong.Nobody asks for a tragedy to strike you just deal with it as best you can.Let us pray it never happens to us and we find out first hand how painful it is when other clubs and dicks like Davies mock us and accuse us of playing on or milking it.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

You are talking bollocks.Everyone deals with grief differently.There are probably relatives of some of the 96 who go to work on the day.Anyone who has suffered grief knows it DOES ease with time.

Liverpool are a club with a worldwide fanbase.While a lot of them will not have known anyone personally who died in the tragedy they were people from the same club,it is like a family,anyone with a heart and soul knows that.It was a COLLECTIVE tragedy indirectly affecting thousands worldwide.

If it was our club how would you feel?How many times does that date fall on a match day?Daglish was at the club at that time,he saw the events unfolding live in front of his eyes.He was also at Heysel.

Sometimes things are bigger than a game and if they don't want to play a game of football on that date i say let them not play it.

To say they milk it,the same as the Munich disaster,in my opinion is wrong.Nobody asks for a tragedy to strike you just deal with it as best you can.Let us pray it never happens to us and we find out first hand how painful it is when other clubs and dicks like Davies mock us and accuse us of playing on or milking it.

in your opinion it's bollocks, I think it's perfectly fair, the players are paid to play, the managers are paid to manage, therefore they're not doing their jobs if they refuse to play on a day because 23 years ago a tragedy happened to the club.

Liverpool are hypocrites and have made a big song and dance about it again and people have bent over for them when there are countless tragedies all over the world that don't get the time of day.

how would I feel if it was our club? I'd want us to play on in their memory and be successful and quietly remember the tragedy whilst moving on like I'd hope people would do if the tragedy had happened to me, I wouldn't want the fuss, especially when it's 20 odd years on.

Would they say the same if the CL Final happened to fall on May 29th? They're still in denial about that one.

Says it all really.

 

[stony]

For the families involved, the actual relatives and friends of the victims, I can sympathise with them fully. It's ok to say it was a long time ago but when you lose someone you love, you never ever forget. My mum died 16 years ago and I still miss her every day. The week coming up the anniversary I'm an absolute **** to live with. The mrs understands and leaves me alone. If you've never really lost someone, you won't understand.

The rest of the self pitying twats can go and fuck a bus. Yes it was a tragedy but I'll bet a good proportion of the arseholes on rawk getting upset about it, probably hadn't been born when it happened.

 

[CTID86]

If you've never really lost someone, you won't understand.

Who hasn't lost someone? Everyone has. That's part of the point that Davies was making -- albeit, in a completely retarded and insensitive way.

 

[Dubai Blue]

great point, terribly made.

I actually thought it was a great point made in a great way. Davies was spot on with this one.

The situation Chelsea have been put into by Liverpool is ridiculous. We all know that the Rags will play on their anniversary, so why can't Liverpool?

Imagine for a moment that the Bradford fire had happened on April 14 and they were scheduled to play the dippers in the semi-final. What would happen then?

If another team refused to play on a certain date due to a reason like the Bradford fire and it had a negative impact on Liverpool winning their sixth European Cup or, God forbid, their 19th title, the hypocritical fucking shitehawks at Anfield would be up in arms about it.

It was a terrible, terrible tragedy, no one is denying that. But life has to go on. That is the only possible way to approach these things, especially over two decades later. If everyone adopted the attitude of the dippers, we'd never play football ever again on any date because someone somewhere might be feeling too sad and reflective. It's pathetic. But then so is pretty much everything associated with that particular club.