MaccJoe123 said:intheknow! said:Donkey Boy said:Israel did. We did fuck all then.........
Bang on.
A couple of months ago Israel killed over 2000 people,the majority of who were innocent men women and children why arent we bombing Israel?
Oh ok because we didn't bomb israel that means we should just ignore this.
MaccJoe123 said:Donkey Boy said:MaccJoe123 said:But the thing is we aren't bombing them for their ideals. We are bombing them because they are going around committing genocide against innocent civilians because they don't have the same ideologies as they do. The question isn't whether we have made the middle east a worse place since the iraq war it's whether we are comfortable living in a world where a group of terrorists can go about murdering children while we sit back.
Israel did. We did fuck all then.........
So that means we should do the same this time?
hilts said:MaccJoe123 said:intheknow! said:Bang on.
A couple of months ago Israel killed over 2000 people,the majority of who were innocent men women and children why arent we bombing Israel?
Oh ok because we didn't bomb israel that means we should just ignore this.
No point arguing a coward is a coward, a pacifist preaches until someone is attacking them then they can't yelp help loud enough. their freedom to spout shit was gained by others blood, it would never be theirs
Aren't you slightly missing the point that we're trying to aid Muslims being killed by Muslims you prick.intheknow! said:BlueBearBoots said:intheknow! said:Sending in troops was so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan right?
You ok to see British soldiers fighting an insurgency, convinced they are fighting in the path of Allah? You ok to see British soldiers killed, limbs blown off,beheaded, so mentally tortured they kill themselves, end up in prison or plagued by mental illness? You okspending billions again that this country doesnt have on pointless unwinnable wars? I aint
When we send in troops we still have morals and ethics and we are answerable to the educated part of the world . It's time to fuckin stop it and just go and blow them to oblivion I'm fuckin sick of our military having to be careful of what they hit - there are going to be civilian deaths , better them than us - just get them and finish it they are arrogant to the extreme lets match it
White colonial, imperialist mindset right there on display.
Sorry but disgusted at what you have put. If your gonna display that attitude dont dare come crying when one of our own innocents like Alan Henning gets killed.
Was Abu Gharib an example of our morals and ethics?
Was Baha Musa an example of our morals and ethics?
What about the hundreds of thousands of dead Muslims?
Who is the educated part of the world exactly?
Staggering this mindset exists in 2014.
Donkey Boy said:MaccJoe123 said:Donkey Boy said:Israel did. We did fuck all then.........
So that means we should do the same this time?
No. But what's the difference. Israel has been killing innocent Palestinians for decades. 2000 innocents, majority of which were women and children, we're murdered there just a few weeks ago.
Why do the west sit back and allow that but can't wait to send in the ground troops in the ME?
Both are abhorrent and devastating but where's the consistency?
Is it because their Jewish? Is that why we ignore?
Either way it's too late for me to debat this now. Another innocent civilian has lost his life tonight. Because of the warped beliefs of murderous scum. RIP Alan Henning.
Gaylord du Bois said:Aren't you slightly missing the point that we're trying to aid Muslims being killed by Muslims you prick.intheknow! said:BlueBearBoots said:When we send in troops we still have morals and ethics and we are answerable to the educated part of the world . It's time to fuckin stop it and just go and blow them to oblivion I'm fuckin sick of our military having to be careful of what they hit - there are going to be civilian deaths , better them than us - just get them and finish it they are arrogant to the extreme lets match it
White colonial, imperialist mindset right there on display.
Sorry but disgusted at what you have put. If your gonna display that attitude dont dare come crying when one of our own innocents like Alan Henning gets killed.
Was Abu Gharib an example of our morals and ethics?
Was Baha Musa an example of our morals and ethics?
What about the hundreds of thousands of dead Muslims?
Who is the educated part of the world exactly?
Staggering this mindset exists in 2014.
MaccJoe123 said:hilts said:MaccJoe123 said:Oh ok because we didn't bomb israel that means we should just ignore this.
No point arguing a coward is a coward, a pacifist preaches until someone is attacking them then they can't yelp help loud enough. their freedom to spout shit was gained by others blood, it would never be theirs
Exactly its all fine while they are murdering children in the middle east but when they start terrorist attacks in the UK and our children are the ones dying their tone will change.
intheknow! said:mancityvstoke said:this is the nature of war unfortunately ..there are no alternatives sometimes ... Doing nothing is not always an option and certainly now it's gone too farintheknow! said:Sending in troops was so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan right?
You ok to see British soldiers fighting an insurgency, convinced they are fighting in the path of Allah? You ok to see British soldiers killed, limbs blown off,beheaded, so mentally tortured they kill themselves, end up in prison or plagued by mental illness? You okspending billions again that this country doesnt have on pointless unwinnable wars? I aint
Why cant you understand these people cannot be defeated by military means this is not a worldwar 2 Hitler moment.
Wilf Wild 1937 said:intheknow! said:mancityvstoke said:this is the nature of war unfortunately ..there are no alternatives sometimes ... Doing nothing is not always an option and certainly now it's gone too far
Why cant you understand these people cannot be defeated by military means this is not a worldwar 2 Hitler moment.
So they don't believe in GLOBAL jihad then? I think Hitler kept saying his next territorial claim was his last.
What you said earlier about Bush & Blair causing all this, I do agree with you on that.
The problem is we are where we are and these guys won't stop expanding their territory until the rest of the world stops them.
Personally I think Turkey will probably sort this out for us if we agree that they get to keep the land afterwards. I think they'd
quite like to start rebuilding the Ottoman Empire. Iraq is a failed state as is Syria. Iran will have to get the Shia areas I guess.
Both the Turks and the Iranians are mad bastards but are better than what we have there now. They can supply the ground troops.
i thought Iraq had asked for help?Bigga said:Trying not to be facetious but, 'genocide' should be treated the same the world over not cherry picked because of the perceived assets a country has.
When Muslim countries ask for help, only then should the West intervene, after all the West haven't helped anything anywhere in the Middle east, yet.
The west discovered the oil.Bigga said:Trying not to be facetious but, 'genocide' should be treated the same the world over not cherry picked because of the perceived assets a country has.
When Muslim countries ask for help, only then should the West intervene, after all the West haven't helped anything anywhere in the Middle east, yet.
intheknow! said:smudgedj said:intheknow! said:Sending in troops was so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan right?
You ok to see British soldiers fighting an insurgency, convinced they are fighting in the path of Allah? You ok to see British soldiers killed, limbs blown off,beheaded, so mentally tortured they kill themselves, end up in prison or plagued by mental illness? You okspending billions again that this country doesnt have on pointless unwinnable wars? I aint
Trouble with that argument diddums I served in the military for 21 years and would still be a member now (having been issued a 10 year contract extension) if I wasn't disabled and therefore medically discharged.
So yes I'm more than OK seeing British soldiers fighting. Same as you seem to be OK with sticking your bum in the air.
I am not asking if your ok to see soldiers fighting, thats what they are there for. I am asking if ur ok to keep repeating the same disatrous policies over and over again with all the terrible consequences, for us that they reap? Why send British soldiers into a war that is unwinnable?
You seem to have taken your eye off the ball whilst you've been grooming kids online for the ISIS effort.intheknow! said:Gaylord du Bois said:Aren't you slightly missing the point that we're trying to aid Muslims being killed by Muslims you prick.intheknow! said:White colonial, imperialist mindset right there on display.
Sorry but disgusted at what you have put. If your gonna display that attitude dont dare come crying when one of our own innocents like Alan Henning gets killed.
Was Abu Gharib an example of our morals and ethics?
Was Baha Musa an example of our morals and ethics?
What about the hundreds of thousands of dead Muslims?
Who is the educated part of the world exactly?
Staggering this mindset exists in 2014.
Ahhh the old we "good" Europeans, "bombing the muslims to save them from themselves"?
Read this and educate yourself, then you might not have to resort to insults and swear words to get your point across.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/30/isis-bomb-muslim-world-air-strikes-saudi-arabia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... udi-arabia</a>
intheknow! said:smudgedj said:intheknow! said:Sending in troops was so successful in Iraq and Afghanistan right?
You ok to see British soldiers fighting an insurgency, convinced they are fighting in the path of Allah? You ok to see British soldiers killed, limbs blown off,beheaded, so mentally tortured they kill themselves, end up in prison or plagued by mental illness? You okspending billions again that this country doesnt have on pointless unwinnable wars? I aint
Trouble with that argument diddums I served in the military for 21 years and would still be a member now (having been issued a 10 year contract extension) if I wasn't disabled and therefore medically discharged.
So yes I'm more than OK seeing British soldiers fighting. Same as you seem to be OK with sticking your bum in the air.
I am not asking if your ok to see soldiers fighting, thats what they are there for. I am asking if ur ok to keep repeating the same disatrous policies over and over again with all the terrible consequences, for us that they reap? Why send British soldiers into a war that is unwinnable?
i think you're proper nuts honestlyintheknow! said:Wilf Wild 1937 said:intheknow! said:Why cant you understand these people cannot be defeated by military means this is not a worldwar 2 Hitler moment.
So they don't believe in GLOBAL jihad then? I think Hitler kept saying his next territorial claim was his last.
What you said earlier about Bush & Blair causing all this, I do agree with you on that.
The problem is we are where we are and these guys won't stop expanding their territory until the rest of the world stops them.
Personally I think Turkey will probably sort this out for us if we agree that they get to keep the land afterwards. I think they'd
quite like to start rebuilding the Ottoman Empire. Iraq is a failed state as is Syria. Iran will have to get the Shia areas I guess.
Both the Turks and the Iranians are mad bastards but are better than what we have there now. They can supply the ground troops.
Would this be the same Islamist Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who said the following:
"There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, Islam is Islam"
"A politician who cherishes religion in his personal sphere but regards politics as a domain outside religion, i believe that this view is seriously flawed"
"The Mosques are our barracks, the Domes our helmets, the Minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers"
We've got our very own IS trogan horse and no one's told Rascal and Bigga they're supposed hide in it not ride on top of it.mancityvstoke said:i think you're proper nuts honestlyintheknow! said:Wilf Wild 1937 said:So they don't believe in GLOBAL jihad then? I think Hitler kept saying his next territorial claim was his last.
What you said earlier about Bush & Blair causing all this, I do agree with you on that.
The problem is we are where we are and these guys won't stop expanding their territory until the rest of the world stops them.
Personally I think Turkey will probably sort this out for us if we agree that they get to keep the land afterwards. I think they'd
quite like to start rebuilding the Ottoman Empire. Iraq is a failed state as is Syria. Iran will have to get the Shia areas I guess.
Both the Turks and the Iranians are mad bastards but are better than what we have there now. They can supply the ground troops.
Would this be the same Islamist Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who said the following:
"There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, Islam is Islam"
"A politician who cherishes religion in his personal sphere but regards politics as a domain outside religion, i believe that this view is seriously flawed"
"The Mosques are our barracks, the Domes our helmets, the Minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers"
Andy Dale said:The west discovered the oil.Bigga said:Trying not to be facetious but, 'genocide' should be treated the same the world over not cherry picked because of the perceived assets a country has.
When Muslim countries ask for help, only then should the West intervene, after all the West haven't helped anything anywhere in the Middle east, yet.
If it wasn't for the likes of Esso , BP , Shell etc the Arabs would still be trying to sell us Medina dates.
Is that figurative or literal ?intheknow! said:Wilf Wild 1937 said:intheknow! said:Why cant you understand these people cannot be defeated by military means this is not a worldwar 2 Hitler moment.
So they don't believe in GLOBAL jihad then? I think Hitler kept saying his next territorial claim was his last.
What you said earlier about Bush & Blair causing all this, I do agree with you on that.
The problem is we are where we are and these guys won't stop expanding their territory until the rest of the world stops them.
Personally I think Turkey will probably sort this out for us if we agree that they get to keep the land afterwards. I think they'd
quite like to start rebuilding the Ottoman Empire. Iraq is a failed state as is Syria. Iran will have to get the Shia areas I guess.
Both the Turks and the Iranians are mad bastards but are better than what we have there now. They can supply the ground troops.
Would this be the same Islamist Recep Tayyip Erdoğan who said the following:
"There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, Islam is Islam"
"A politician who cherishes religion in his personal sphere but regards politics as a domain outside religion, i believe that this view is seriously flawed"
"The Mosques are our barracks, the Domes our helmets, the Minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers"