Why is the threat of no-deal not an incentive for the EU to talk? ..genuine question

We're fucked but what other options do we have apart from a u turn.. which I don't see happening

The EU have been talking and have been consistent all the way through. They will not accept a half in half out position. At its core the EU is a very detailed rule book linked to a massive free trade area with international trade agreements attached. You either accept the rules or you don't and if you don't you have to operate a border that controls goods / services moving in and out. All along the brexiteers thing they can get the good stuff and ignore the rules - never going to happen from day 1. How many times do they have to be told.

The answer to all this is we remain in the EU. The question is what sort of merry dance do we have to do before we accept it. How much BS do we have to put up with from the likes of BJ and other brexiteers. No deal is more BS, it does not change the above statement in any way - if we drop out and then look to talk the message will be 100% the same - in or out, take your pick.
 
Could you say the same of Johnson?
I'm not interested in Johnson the man, only Johnson the PM. I can't do anything about those who inherit wealth, I didn't and I'm not bitter... it's life

Of course I would value the suggested tax cut or the change to the 40% threshold in particular which affects me. The main focus however needs to be on what Boris can do to fuel the economy which is essential in my book
 
I'm not interested in Johnson the man, only Johnson the PM. I can't do anything about those who inherit wealth, I didn't and I'm not bitter... it's life

Of course I would value the suggested tax cut or the change to the 40% threshold in particular which affects me. The main focus however needs to be on what can do to fuel the economy which is essential in my book

Leaving with no-deal and fueling the economy are not compatible. Johnson is doomed to failure
 
The EU have been talking and have been consistent all the way through. They will not accept a half in half out position. At its core the EU is a very detailed rule book linked to a massive free trade area with international trade agreements attached. You either accept the rules or you don't and if you don't you have to operate a border that controls goods / services moving in and out. All along the brexiteers thing they can get the good stuff and ignore the rules - never going to happen from day 1. How many times do they have to be told.

The answer to all this is we remain in the EU. The question is what sort of merry dance do we have to do before we accept it. How much BS do we have to put up with from the likes of BJ and other brexiteers. No deal is more BS, it does not change the above statement in any way - if we drop out and then look to talk the message will be 100% the same - in or out, take your pick.
I'm a believer in democracy and call it cutting my nose off to spite my face but we voted to leave.... no room for half measures... the "free trade" area is a play on words isn't.. it is far from free
 
Can't stop laughing. I love Boris Johnson and to think of him of being prime minister of my country is a belter, whatever happens he can't do as bad as the previous ones and if anything he seems a likeable fella who always has a smile on his face.
Go on Boris rip shit up.
 
A) it’s says able to as in allowed not financially capable
B) teachers, nhs staff and Whitehall mandarins,
C) it doesn’t give any figures whatsoever

I would imagine the ones that can earn good money so you want them to earn more so they can retire early at the expense of lower paid public sector workers and private sector who can’t?

Your not selling it to me mate.

if I have you a gold watch every week you wouldn't buy it unless it said labour.
 

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